Plenty Hwy, Bonya Store fuel ??

Thanks for that helpful reply.
I do have my CLC permit as I am continuing west from Alice to Sandy Blight Junction Rd.
The reason for my enquiry was that I had read a post from 2012 on this site saying Bonya was a scenic, friendly community and were going to open a Art Centre.
So why shouldn't I visit and support them?
Have a nice day

Wow Stephen L . Simple question and you reply like an absolute dick.

Ivan it’s replying like an absolute dick, it’s putting things into perspective.

You do a Google the latest information on the Aboriginal Community shows no art centre what so ever, no contact phone number, no accurate details on fuel sales that was last updates 11 years ago.

Then to say he has a permit from the CLC to go out to the Sandy Blight Highway……this permit does not cover entry into aboriginal communities hundreds of kilometres to the east.

If you don’t agree with what I have just written, do a search yourself and then ask yourself who is the dick then……

CLC? Sandy Blight? The question was about fuel prices at Bonya!

Instead of jumping at me like you did, please read his reply, he was the one that mentioned the Sandy Blight Junction track and permits.

You need a permit to visit Aboriginal communities and the SBJ permit does not include along the Plenty area.

Like I said good planning requires first contacting the communities concerned to see if they do sell fuel, I was going to ring them today but could not find and contact phone number.

Again please read his reply rather than condemning me.

Stephen,
What is the reason behind these all important permits?
I have never needed to apply for one so do not know the types of information they demand.
What are the "rules, and the penalties for breaking them?
Do these rules, or laws apply to all Australians, can I put a sign at my front gate stating a permit is required to enter my property and instructions on how to obtain one and my bank details for the fees?
At the moment it appears the general public have the right to enter my property whenever and for whatever they want, or I would not need to carry public risk insurance.

Hi Qldcamper

Permits to visit and transit through Aboriginal land seems to vary across Australia.

When applying for a Transit permit (in most cases they are free) you fill in firstly the area or areas that you wish to transit through, as there in no blanket permit for all areas.

On the permit they will ask your reason for travelling through the area, the drivers name and all passengers in the vehicle, the type of vehicle and it’s registration number and the state where it is registered and then the dates that you intend to enter Aboriginal Land.

There are some areas where permits are never issued for transit, eg all the APY Lands in South Australia is out of bounds, with the exception of people working in the communities.

As for who has to apply for the permits, there are no exceptions, and a complete joke was a classic from a friend of mine years ago. He was the then chairman of the of the Maralinga Tjatjurra Lands (Archie Barton, full blood Aboriginal) and had to attend a meeting in Umuwa in the APY Lands and he told me even he had to get a permit, to which I said was total B/S as even though he was Aboriginal, he was not from that area.

All transit permits vary from state to state, with some also requesting what communities you will visit..eg for fuel etc and not covered in the full transit permit.

When applying for permits, they clearly state that heavy penalties can apply for any person entering Aboriginal without a permit.

For this reason, it is a simple job for any traveller to do a quick google for any area that they are travelling and if and what permits are required.

I know this was a long reply but hope it sort of clears it up for you.

Yes thanks Stephen, answers a lot.
Do I have the same writes to do this with my land I wonder?

All I can say without digging a deep hole is we are all supposed to be one Nation and all treated equal.

The town where we live, any person or traveller can visit it freely without any permits, yet if I want to visit many other areas out Bush, I must have to apply for a permit…so much for us all being equal.

Here is one more light reading from the Central Land Council….
Transit Permits..this is just for Central Australia

Have a look at the very last rule under fuel….if you are a petrol vehicle….you must not have petrol even in your fuel tank, only Opal fuel……..

qldcamper - Yes you can. No one is exempt from trespass laws to wander around your property. It is accepted that people can go through your front gate to your front door to converse with you but that is as far as they can go without permission.

from your previous "At the moment it appears the general public have the right to enter my property whenever and for whatever they want, or I would not need to carry public risk insurance." As explained above, they are trespassing if they do. However, if they do trespass it does not extinguish their rights to public risk provisions. For example, there have been claims made by people who have entered properties unlawfully and injured themselves (e.g. fallen over a rake left lying on the lawn) and receiving compensation.

Your term, Maralinga!Tjatjurra Iand, and I understand it isnt your term, interests me.
Why is the word Maralinga associated with this?
I have learned that the english gave the area that name taken from something north of the territory border yet it seems to have been adopted as a traditional name.
If this is in fact true then that part of the name should be dropped just like Ayres and Fraser, or is it because the name Marilinga has tourist dollar value now?
There is a couple of more shovels out of that hole you mentioned.

Here is an explanation than may offer some details, but you must remember, this body was formed back in the 1980’s, decades before Maralinga became a tourist venue .
Maralinga Tjarutja history

Hi Stephen,
We are drifting off-topic but to maybe clarify the "Maralinga" term, it was as you linked in Wikipedia selected by Butement from a glossary of Aboriginal terms, but not all local to the area. It came from the Ilgar language in the Northern Territory and related to thunder.
The term "Maralinga' was applied to the immediate area of the (post Emu Field) atomic tests and the accomodation village but with time has come to relate to the larger surrounding area and to the Aboriginal Tjarutja section of the Pitjantjatjara people.

Much the same occurred to the "Woomera" term which was originally intended to only apply to the site of the township but then came to include the test range area and to the defined "Woomera Prohibited Zone which once extended 2000 km all the way to the WA coast and even into the Indian Ocean for some distance. The township then became informally known as the "Woomera village" and later gazetted as a town name.

Petrol Spy indicates recent price updates, so something may be happening there.

Thanks Peter, I saw that on petrol spy and that's what prompted my original question

But other fuel apps say the price hasn't changed in over 6 months

Late June 23 signs on the main rd when I went thru , didn’t need fuel so I didn’t call in.