Isuzu DMax purchase

Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 02, 2023 at 18:06
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Hello,
I am thinking of buying a new series DMax.
The $65,000 driveaway price is very appealing.
I'm after peoples opinions on this car for touring and towing a 2.5 tonne caravan.
I have discounted a pre rego GVM upgrade as Isuzu Australia have put in writing that they will not cover drive train, gearbox and chassis for a non IUA approved upgrade, the GVM upgrade was just to future proof the vehicle in case we purchase another van in the future.
I am thinking of the polished alloy bullbar and a snorkel fitted from Isuzu.
A long range fuel tank will be fitted at some stage, thoughts on Brown Davis or ARB?
Any thoughts are welcome.
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Reply By: Kazza055 - Wednesday, Aug 02, 2023 at 18:25

Wednesday, Aug 02, 2023 at 18:25
They are a great car but then I am biased having my D-Max since 2014.

I have towed our 2500kg van about 50,000km now and find it handles it very well. The D-Max is rated to tow 3500kg but in my mind that is about 1,000kg more than I would ever tow with it. I did put mine over a weigh bridge back in 2015 when I was fully loaded for a major tour of the east coast, the car was fully loaded at 3,000kg and van at 2,500kg.

All you need to do is look at how many Isuzus are out there towing, there are heaps.

I did the GVM upgrade as part of the deal and it gave me an extra 270kg payload. I also added a 137L long range tank which gives me a rand of 600-650km towing and 1,000km+ without the van.

I also have a canopy, drawer system plus solar and auxiliary battery in the tub. I carry 2 fridges, 60L freezer and 50L beer fridge.

All these accessories were included in the vehicle purchase with the dealer making nothing on any of them.

Mine is now nearly 10 years old but still feels like a new car and I still love it.

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Reply By: RMD - Wednesday, Aug 02, 2023 at 19:58

Wednesday, Aug 02, 2023 at 19:58
G'day William.
Haven't checked new prices but the one you are considering buying is around twice the price they were in 2011.
No surprise IUA won't accept a GVM upgrade. Even though you can get one, it is only a suspension strength increase. It does not lessen forces on axles and suspension components but does increase loading to a permitted amount, according to the engineering report. Apparently they are accepted by rego authorities. If you simply fit a better, more capable suspension with appropriate shocks it will be the same but no official BS certificate. A GVM doesn't increase life of anything.
Even though a 3500kg towing is mentioned, it to me, only means it can shift it along a road in favourable conditions, not under adverse conditions or throughout mountain areas/ hills etc. Therefore far less, as Kazza indicates, is more sensible.
IUA have previously not warranted stuff fitted by some of their dealers so fitting of anything will attract negative responses if problems from any mod arrives. Not sure if they even accept a bigger tank. I use 50 L slim tank in tub for additional fuel when needed. A pump and filter fitted to it serves well , is removable when not required and keeps the fuel system OE.
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Follow Up By: Member - William B - Wednesday, Aug 02, 2023 at 20:36

Wednesday, Aug 02, 2023 at 20:36
I follow exactly what your saying in regards to a GVM upgrade, springs and shocks only in an upgrade that may cause problems down the track.
Can you give a bit more info on the slim line fuel tank you have please.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Wednesday, Aug 02, 2023 at 21:37

Wednesday, Aug 02, 2023 at 21:37
William.
Don't get me wrong. I endorse the fitting of a bit more clearance, usually provided by improving the suspension. A more supple suspension which holds chassis height at a higher level will provide more suspension UP travel to absorb road conditions without bottoming, which is likely with the stock suspension. The shocks have to have greater ability to absorb porpoising action, ie, good front shocks and the rears will have to have more ability to absorb the van weight which is transferred to the rear axle and springs in undulating conditions., like dips. The better suspension should have the ability to hold higher and not cause excess component loading. With loads to the max, which isn't wise anyway, the stress on all vehicle areas is increased. If the std suspension crashes to the chassis and doesn't provide good control of steering and braking then it isn't great. I fitted Bilsteins to mine at 5000km from new, OE was hopeless to the extreme. Costly but Koni shocks will last and provide good mass control.

My slim 50L tank is simply a suitable sized petrol tank RED from one of the manufacturers. Any Hydrocarbon suitable tank is same but different colour. The Poly is the same. Just don't fit it in a confined space as once they are filled with a Hydrocarbon fuel they grow, once only, about 2% in all directions and may be hard to remove later. ie clearance to expand. At the base of mine I fitted a hose to a ball tap and then a Donaldson 11 micron filter with a sump for water collection, if any, and an OLD Commodore inline fuel pump to transfer fuel via a length of fuel hose to filler neck. Power for pump from a ciggy lead to a port in the tub. Pump mounted on an aluminium sheet saddle over the tank top . Just slides on. Hope this gives you some options.
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Reply By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Wednesday, Aug 02, 2023 at 22:30

Wednesday, Aug 02, 2023 at 22:30
The $65K drive away in no gimmick and will be the top of the line X Terrain.

Brilliant vehicle, bullet proof reliable motor and drivetrain.

You will find those that knock them don’t have one.

I went for the Safari snorkel, was cheaper than the genuine one.

One extra that I can thoroughly recommend is the EGR Real Tailgate seal, they are brilliant.

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Reply By: Member - John - Thursday, Aug 03, 2023 at 08:03

Thursday, Aug 03, 2023 at 08:03
GVM Upgrade decreases the towing capacity by the increased amount.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Thursday, Aug 03, 2023 at 08:11

Thursday, Aug 03, 2023 at 08:11
John, that might be the case for your Nissan but……

From the factory all Isuzu D Max have a 3500 kg GMV as standard.
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Thursday, Aug 03, 2023 at 08:22

Thursday, Aug 03, 2023 at 08:22
Stephen, I was commenting on the paragraph about getting a GVM upgrade, "the GVM upgrade was just to future proof the vehicle in case we purchase another van in the future."
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Thursday, Aug 03, 2023 at 09:26

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John is correct. In my case I did the GVM upgrade because I found by the time I filled the car with tools, fuel, fridges, bikes etc, I did not have the capacity to take my wife and dogs, I could only add another 20kg after I was in the car. The GVM upgrade did nothing to the GCM but did allow me to add another 270kg to the cars payload so dogs and wife could come with me ;=))

My final weights fully loaded with the 2,500kg van meant I was 500kg short of the maximum GCM of 5,950kg GCM hence my earlier comment of 2,500kg as a good weight for a van.

GVM upgrade does NOT alter the GCM but does allow the car to carry more payload.

The GVM upgrade that was done on my car was done through the dealer and was part of the initial purchase. The dealer actually included the details back to Isuzu to ensure that it was included in the car warranty. If your dealer is not allowing the upgrade, it is time to find a new dealer who will cover it for warranty.
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Reply By: Life Member - Duncan W (WA) - Monday, Aug 07, 2023 at 09:36

Monday, Aug 07, 2023 at 09:36
I'm on my 2nd MUX so same same but different. Do not get swayed to get the Isuzu bar as you can't fit recovery points to them. I got caught with that with my 1st MUX. Now have a TJM colour coded one that comes with recovery points as standard.

Excellent vehicles. Mate has last year's model and loves it. small fuel tank is a pain in the backside but at least you can get aftermarket replacement tanks easy as.
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Follow Up By: Member - William B - Monday, Aug 07, 2023 at 13:45

Monday, Aug 07, 2023 at 13:45
Hi Dunc,
Thanks for the heads up about the bullbar, I have confirmed this morning that they do not have recovery points.
I have priced the ARB Summit bar.
What TJM bar did you go with?
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Follow Up By: Life Member - Duncan W (WA) - Monday, Aug 07, 2023 at 13:57

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The Outback. Only annoyance if you can call it that is that the aerial mounting point is not further out on the bar. the accessory mounting points in my mind are a bit too centric on the bar, something I didn't notice until I had the UHF aerial mounted.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Monday, Aug 07, 2023 at 19:13

Monday, Aug 07, 2023 at 19:13
William

If you don’t get a bull bar….I don’t have one, there is a rated recovery point on the front on the D Max. Many say this is not correct, but Isuzu say it is rated.
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Reply By: Member - William B - Tuesday, Aug 15, 2023 at 14:30

Tuesday, Aug 15, 2023 at 14:30
Just an update.
I have put a deposit on a X-terrain Dmax.
We went with white as it has a delivery date of September. But probably November. Plus we can put the $650 to other goodies.
Thanks to advice from other people we have gone with the ARB bullbar and long range fuel tank.
Isuzu snorkel as they replace the air box with another factory unit. No cutting holes and patching them.
We steered away from a GVM upgrade because we didn't know what we might tow in the future.
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