Spare Wheel Security

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 09:32
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Hi all,

I have a GU Patrol with the spare wheel mounted on the rear door. I currently use a fairly good quality Lockwood Padlock that has been keyed the same as my house key to lock it to the spare wheel mount.

I recently needed to remove the spare and had to spend 30 minutes trying to unlock the padlock using half a can of CRC to assist. I was almost at the point of bringing out the angle grinder. The car/padlock is 14 months old.

I'm looking for any other suggestions for securing the spare wheel. I would hate to be stuck out in the bush having difficutiles removing the spare.

Thanks in advance
Phil P

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Reply By: Tuco69 - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 09:43

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 09:43
Go and buy a set of locking wheel nuts. Replace the ordinary nuts on the spare wheel with three of the locking ones.
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Reply By: Peter O - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 09:52

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 09:52
Hi Phil,
I think your on the right track with the padlock mate, I've done the same.

What you can do to prevent the trouble you had is get a piece of bike tube wide enough to cover the key hole and breather hole and stretch it over the lock. Make sure it fits fairly tight, not too tight so you can't get around it when you want to. I have had the same thing on my GU spare with no probs for about 8 months.

I recently put a spare wheel cover on(Ex-Large) to fit Cooper ST 285/75/R16, it still gets dirt and dust in but I have no drama at all.

Hope this helps

Peter
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Follow Up By: Brian - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:40

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 12:40
I have a Master lock that has a blue plastic cover that snaps on and off keeps all dust dirt out!

Brian
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Reply By: Member - Slim - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 09:53

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 09:53
Phil

I have a similar setup to you but I tape the padlock up with electrical tape. I have also used a vinyl spare wheel cover and I find that I have had no problem with dust. Any lock will give you trouble if it is exposed to dust dirt or mud. You will notice the locking pins in the Hayman Reese type hitches usually have a small plastic press on cover. THis seems to work OK also.

Regards,
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Reply By: Michael - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:00

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:00
Hi ya, the patrol spare wheel studs and nuts are not standard, they have the nut and the thread together, really its a bolt, not a nut. Toyota is normal and you use lock nuts on them but not Nissan .
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Follow Up By: Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:18

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:18
Michael,
You're quite right about the system Nissan uses. One alternative would be to ditch the Nissan retaining bolts and fit 3 wheel studs instead (with loctite) and then you can use normal wheel nuts to retain.
I think the reason they do it is to make it easier to mount the wheel....instead of having to line up the wheel's holes while you're lifting the wheel up, it can virtually be done in to separate steps...(1) lift wheel onto the wheel carrier regardless of position of holes (2) rotate the wheel slightly while it's weight is being handled by the lug provided and line up the holes before inserting the 3 bolts provided. There is some merit in that system, I guess....
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Follow Up By: Michael - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 11:07

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 11:07
Roachie, I have a 99 Gu ,it has a plastic wheel holder, the complete thing bolted to the door is plastic, i dont know how hard that would beto mod, Also have a 2003 GU, it has a pressed steel holder, this obviously would be easier to mod.. and worth the effort. regards michael
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:21

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:21
Beware of padlocks. I can open them in a few seconds using common tools and I'm not a crook. I guess they do keep honest people honest though.
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Follow Up By: Peter O - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:33

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:33
Even good quality Lockwood padlocks?
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Follow Up By: old_55 - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:44

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:44
Universal Skeleton Key (Bolt Cutters)
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Follow Up By: Peter O - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:45

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:45
I guess that would work
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:55

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 10:55
Yep good quality Lockwood not using bolt cutters. It's very simple if you know how. It was shown to me at work when I lost a key, I got the angle grinder out before one of my peers shoved me aside and took over. I've done a few since then.
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 17:24

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 17:24
Not every one carrys boltcutters , but two hammers works just as good if you know where & how to hit .Blacksmith speek .
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 21:46

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 21:46
Pretty good Errol, I use one hammer and a little steel bar.
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 20:48

Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 at 20:48
Supa Glue a bloody big nail head into the tread of the tyre............ that'll stop em'.

Cheers

Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Member - Penguin (NSW) - Saturday, Jul 17, 2004 at 16:48

Saturday, Jul 17, 2004 at 16:48
Wolfie, you have excelled yourself! ROFLMAO.
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Reply By: motherhen - Friday, Jul 16, 2004 at 00:08

Friday, Jul 16, 2004 at 00:08
Before out trip last year, we bought a couple of what must have been cheap and nasty locks that had keys for our spares, as our local dealer didn't have any of the locking nuts i am familiar with - a bit of red dirt and they wouldn't unlock - and a very hot day to get a flat. So we patched to tyre with our emergency tyre kit but it still wouldn't hold air. Who'd believe we would get 2 puntures at the same time! A knock with a hammer dealt with the locks quickly - what a waste of money they were. Since that have just trusted no-one with dishonest intent looks under the covers to see no locks at all!

Mind you - it's not a lot of fun getting a flat and finding the gizmo to realise the nut is at home.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could trust everyone to respect our property. I'm not used to all this security stuff.

I know the world is changing. Two places where i work in our small country town got burgled last night - second time in last 18 months for bot h of them - just trashed the offices while taking the mimimal cash.
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Reply By: Tuco69 - Saturday, Jul 17, 2004 at 09:09

Saturday, Jul 17, 2004 at 09:09
Hi Phil, Sorry but I wasn't aware that your GU used bolts instead of the more common nuts for holding the spare tyre onto its mount.

Despite the security that a GOOD quality padlock can provide - I still feel that security coded wheel nuts or bolts may be your answer to the dust problem associated with locks and keys.

BOTH styles - nuts and bolts are available from Speedy Wheels Australia . Your favourite local tyre/wheel place should also be able to supply - or also Repco, Autobarn or SupercheaP.

Just make sure that the coded socket remains with your toolkit! LOL.
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Reply By: Puddin & Gumnut (Sydney) - Saturday, Jul 17, 2004 at 14:46

Saturday, Jul 17, 2004 at 14:46
I got a lock that fits over the nuts so they can't be turned from opposite lock & it's never given me any trouble.
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