Customised Landcruiser versus Patrol
Submitted: Saturday, Jul 13, 2002 at 00:00
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piers
I'm interested in recommendations regarding whether to purchase a Patrol or Landcruiser 100 series, based on the following criteria:
*Must be diesel
*Am prepared to fit aftermarket turbo with intercooler if necessary
*Aim to purchase vehicle with 50,000 - 80,000 kms on the clock
*Assume aftermarket products will be fitted from day 1, including: shocks,
suspension, long range fuel tank,
water tank, diff locks, winch, bull bar,
snorkel
*Will carry heavy loads at times (but will never tow a trailer)
*Max fuel range is important
*Assume 2 hardcore trips per year e.g. Canning, Simpson; and 8 mid-strength shorter trips per year
*Max storage space is important
*Max ground clearance is important
*Must not be independent front
suspension (i.e. require max wheel travel)
Many thanks for your help.
Reply By: Andrew - Saturday, Jul 13, 2002 at 00:00
Saturday, Jul 13, 2002 at 00:00
Piers
The cruiser 4.2diesel is about $10K dearer when new and about $2K dearer second hand (50-80000kms) than the GU 4.2 turbo. Visit redbook.com.au
The 100 cruiser is more refined and has better build quality but the GU 4.2turbo is considered by most to be the most robust/reliable vehicle on the market.
Drive them both and then decide. There's not much in it between them.
For your intended use these are the two that I would be choosing between.
Aftermarket gear is similarly priced for both.
Andrew
1999 GU ST 4.2 turbo Wagon
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Follow Up By: Piers - Monday, Jul 15, 2002 at 00:00
Monday, Jul 15, 2002 at 00:00
Andrew, Many thanks for the reply and the helpful good advise. One further question for you: what would you recommend out of the Patrol 3.0TD and the 4.2TD? The 3.0 seems to have more power and torque, combined with, I assume, much better fuel economy.
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Monday, Jul 15, 2002 at 00:00
Monday, Jul 15, 2002 at 00:00
Piers
The 3.0TD is more economical, cheaper and is available with an auto.
Long term reliabilty is yet to be proven.
Don't be fooled by peak power and torque figures with any engine. Grab a Patrol brochure and
check the engine charts. The 3.0TD has a very narrow power/torque band compared to the 4.2TD's almost flat torque spread. This makes the 4.2 better for off road and towing.
Your money, your choice.
Andrew
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Reply By: Angela - Sunday, Jul 14, 2002 at 00:00
Sunday, Jul 14, 2002 at 00:00
piers,
you might want to look at the following site for second hand vehicles. they are previously owned by government and there seems to be some good deals.
http://www.car.net.au/carnet/usedcars/default.asp
let me know if you decide to get a vehicle from them as we are looking at them as an option for a couple of years time if still operating.
angela
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Follow Up By: Piers - Monday, Jul 15, 2002 at 00:00
Monday, Jul 15, 2002 at 00:00
Angela - thanks for the recommendation. I'll
check out the site, and if I end up purchasing from them I'll let you know how it went! Cheers.
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Reply By: TR - Monday, Jul 15, 2002 at 00:00
Monday, Jul 15, 2002 at 00:00
We brought a new crusier this year, had it fully decked, thrashed it around Australia, and when it came down to it, the most useful thing over the patrol was the rear fold down door!! It was a table to prepare food, workbench,
seat, etc.... was certainly one of the things we couldn't have done with out. Simple huh?
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Follow Up By: Piers - Monday, Jul 15, 2002 at 00:00
Monday, Jul 15, 2002 at 00:00
Nice, simple and straight to the point! Cheers.
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Reply By: Cashy - Tuesday, Jul 16, 2002 at 00:00
Tuesday, Jul 16, 2002 at 00:00
Piers,
From your criteria, the only 2 options are either the Landcruiser or Patrol. iven the requirement for max fuel you will find that the cruiser can has a greater capacity for fuel carrying in long range tanks than the Patrol. LC +270l with only replacing sub tank, 315l relacing both tanks, the patrol is 225l replacing both tanks, I believe these are reasonably correct figures. As regards the rest of the accessories they are pretty standard for both vehicles. I would only consider the 4.2l Patrol rather then the 3.0L as it has better low down power and a proven track record. But given the choice I would pick the Landcruiser and fit an after market turdo.
Hope this helps.
Cashy
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Follow Up By: Piers - Wednesday, Jul 17, 2002 at 00:00
Wednesday, Jul 17, 2002 at 00:00
Cashy, Many thanks for the help. Yes, my original thoughts too were the cruiser diesel with an aftermarket turbo. At the end of the day, it's going to come down to cash. I think the cruiser is more closely aligned to my requirements, but at a significant premium over the Patrol.
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Follow Up By: Cashy - Thursday, Jul 18, 2002 at 00:00
Thursday, Jul 18, 2002 at 00:00
Piers,
You may be able to get the the cruiser for roughly the same as the 4.2 td patrol. Try looking at some of the ex-goverment auctions. Every week they usually have a few vehicles for auction that may suit your needs. It depends on where you are as to if they are close to you. Try www.autogroup.com.au it is updated frequently.
Cashy
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