Procrastinating again
Submitted: Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 00:38
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Member - Brett H (QLD)
The old 2h troopy is at it's use by date and although I would like nothing more than to get another later model one I have found myself looking at the 100 series. They seem seem to come with better options, more comfortable seating cd player etc for the same money (2 -4 year old). I wonder if there is similar room inside wit all rear seats removed?
How does the on road and off road performance differ between the 2 non turbo models?
I have heard conflicting info that the only 'cruiser to be fitted with live front axle id the sdt model but I have seen GXLs with a live front end. Is it only the turbo and petrol versions which are fitted with the independant front.?
Is the IFS really that restrictive or would the gains from aturbo outweigh te IFS?
Would a 100 serie be able to get to
places my 75 series troopy got to?
Lots of questions......sorry all answers are appreciated.
Reply By: Member - Stephen M (VIC) - Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 08:29
Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 08:29
Brett...
i can't comment on the difference's in the diesel's 'cos
mine have always been petrol but as far as the live front axle goes the GXL's were all live until the intoduction of the V8 in lieu of the 6, all cruisers are now IFS front end except the LC standard
as for the restrictions imposed by the IFS i am yet to find any terrain where it has been compromised over live axle... no doubt others will have different ideas but i'd
check and see what sort of vehicle they drive... probably never owned or driven an IFS, i believe that the only time you'd ever really notice a difference would be in true "EXTREME" conditions
i also can't comment on the 100 series getting to
places the 75 series troopy would because i've never driven one, but i doubt there'd be any problems there....
steve
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 12:04
Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 12:04
I think you will find, not only will the 100 [proper ifs model designation, vs 105 series for live axle front end] go more
places than the 75, it will do it on less fuel, much more comfortably, and the thingh will drive alot more like a car on the roads, where most spend 90+% of the time, even if they are dirt roads.
Once you have had a good IFS vehicle, you would never go back to a live axle front end.
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Reply By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 09:33
Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 09:33
Hi Brett, I guess you have to access your needs, the 100 will have about 2/3 the room of the troopie but is more comfortable, the troopie has the space to keep gear dry and safe and even sleep in if you wanted to.
You can upgrade the troopie comfort by fitting good bucket seats on suspention bases, I fitted one to my work ute and its great wish I had done it long before I did.
The late models all use the same turbo motor and basic running gear, and unless you are into very serious 4WDing the IFS wont be a problem.
If you are going to take the seats out then you may as
well go with the troopie.
Buy a late model RV troopie and comfort it up a little with the best seats you can find, and I dont think the difference would be that great, but I bet you will miss your troopie if you go with the 100.
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Follow Up By: Member - Brett H (QLD) - Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 09:54
Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 09:54
I am caught between a
rock and a hard place. I have had the troopy since new(1989) and know it inside out. There is heaps of room ,as you said< and the performance or lack of is known to me and with the exception of getting to the end of the Burrup peninsular I haven't been stopped getting anywhere.
Traditionally the troopy would be packed to the bottom of the windows and every inch of floor covered.
The 100 series looks a tad wider and I can visualise a reasonable area with the rear seats removed.
If I get a 100 series I will wish I stayed with the troopy and if I get a troopy I will wish I had the 100 series comfort.
What year did the GXL diesel become IFS?
I have read recently that the 1HZ motor was updated in 2002 but the engine specs advertise the same power output... can anyone shed any light?
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:09
Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:09
Brett I forgot to add that the late model troopies have front coils springs as
well so that part would be very similar to the 100. Is your troopie in good nick and is it only the power that you are thinking about, I have a 2H so I know what you are saying, but like you said there are not many
places they wont go I guess towing is there downfall, and they are very reliable with NO electronic's to go bung. What about spending some money on an upgrade say motor rebuild and fit a turbo, or 6.2 chev V8 deisel convertion, fit the susp. seats to improve comfort ?
How many
miles has it done?
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Follow Up By: Member - Brett H (QLD) - Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:18
Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:18
It has 320000km on it and is standard , except the wheels. I have a bit of rust in it and the paint is a bit thin in areas. The 5 th gear has been noisy for the last 200000km and it will go sooner or later. The
suspension is saggy btu I can tell you that it handles corrugations with ease. I roughly costed rebuilding the 2h and tidying te car up to be as new as I could and with paint , rust, g'box, radiator, injector pump, clutch (still original), front axle seals and bearings all round etc I am really better off getting a newer model as I estimated little change for 20k.
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:45
Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:45
Friend of mine just had to replace his 2H motor in his 75 ute (1986??). It cost him about $4200. Apparently a piece of a piston ring came loose and scored a cylinder very badly plus did some other damage.
It had done about 450 000km I think. Was definately over 400 000km.
Utemad
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:47
Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:47
Sounds feasible , but the vibes I am getting from you are I recon you will need another troopie. LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 11:27
Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 11:27
Had exactly the same problem at 420k, No 5 and 2 cost $3100 for complete rebuild and did labour myself. Done almost 100,000 now since and is just starting to let go.
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Reply By: waveslave - Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 11:29
Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 11:29
Hiya,
Looka round for an ex ambo Troopy. They're at the ex. govt auctions. They come with recaro seats standard, and are the 78 series with front coils making for a much more comfortable ride. I paid $34,800 for an 01 model with only 35000k's and all the extras. Winch/BB/Seats/Lights etc.
Good Luck
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Reply By: Member - glenno (QLD) - Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 16:52
Saturday, Jul 31, 2004 at 16:52
TROOPY . troopys rule . fishin and mates and beer and troopys . WOOOOOOOOOW.
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Reply By: Member - Brett H (QLD) - Sunday, Aug 01, 2004 at 17:26
Sunday, Aug 01, 2004 at 17:26
I am swaying back and forth like a tree in a wind at present. Still don't know what to do as I can see benefits in both vehicles. I lean more towardw the Troopy because of the space and because it is familiar but then I swing the other way to the 100 series because of the comfort and possible because I want an bit of a change after driven ONLY Troopies since the mid 80's and recently a TD Hilux s a company car.
I will continue procrastinating, I guess until I really need to buy.
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Follow Up By: Member - glenno (QLD) - Sunday, Aug 01, 2004 at 20:28
Sunday, Aug 01, 2004 at 20:28
Brett the main reason i bought my troopy was because they are so common and parts are easy to get .
Seat up to eleven people or with a rear fold away bench
seat 9 or 3 with a mattress in the back (endless combination really). The sheer volume of crap i can carry . cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Brett H (QLD) - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 19:17
Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 19:17
I think I will go for another Troopy. Now to decide ....petrol, diesel . turbo diesel. thank god they don't have an electric one. lol
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Follow Up By: Member - glenno (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 03, 2004 at 17:48
Tuesday, Aug 03, 2004 at 17:48
If i towed anything brett i would want a turbo diesel . But i dont tow anything so the lack of power doesnt worry me.
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Reply By: Member - Brett H (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 03, 2004 at 18:16
Tuesday, Aug 03, 2004 at 18:16
Well now it comes down to dollars. from what I have see a Turdo Diesel Troopy is about 5 to 6 k more than the non turbo. Thats a lot of bucks..
Have to get the wife a second job now , I should have done it sooner.
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