Are the GQ and GU rims the same?

Submitted: Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 11:32
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Hi,

Are the GQ and GU stud pattern and PCD the same?? I'm tying to find out if the rear door wheel bracket on the GQ wagons is the same as that for the GU.

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 12:43

Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 12:43
The Wheel stud patten is same.
Offset is same.

The rear door mount bracket is different as bolt holes that hold it on the door.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 13:33

Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 13:33
what dya mean about the rear door bracket Truckster? Geez mate theres stuff you don't know somewhere..... I want to go to 285's on the GU, is that a rear door worry?
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 13:56

Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 13:56
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 14:03

Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 14:03
Hi Bonz,

I have a 285/75 Cooper ST on my GU rear door. Originally I just bolted it straight on, but the tread then rubs on the door itself and you cannot tighten the nuts up such that the rim is hard against the bracket.

I simply made up a spacer from 25mm RHS, but also incorporated a bracket for my HF antenae and also a rear worklight holder. I have now done 20,000kms and so far looks perfect (no loose door, leaking door seals, cracks etc...) and works very well.

If you want any pics, just member message me.

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Follow Up By: Peter O - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 14:09

Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 14:09
"rear door bracket" I believe referrs to the spare wheel carrier that is bolted to the rear door. As for the 285's I found that the Cooper ST tyres that I put on my GU wouldn't fit on to the rear wheel carrier. The width of the tyre was OK but the diameter was greater (833mm on new Cooper ST 285/75R16), to fix this problem I removed the wheel carrier on custom made a spacer to fit to the door and then the original wheel carrier was fitted to the spacer.

On the other hand a replacment swing away wheel carrier will do the trick too.

Hope this helps

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 14:15

Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 14:15
yea Peter has it...I mean the bracket on the door itself.

Bloke in our club has a specially made one forsale for bigger tires, as apparently a few have failed in the past.

Shame swingaway carriers EG Kaymar are so $$$ :(
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 14:18

Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 14:18
Thanx all, yes Truckster big $$, bet they replace the popout taillights on the GU with something more substantial, I too was worried about the weight on the rear door and the extra tyre size and weight and diameter.

Kaymar may be the go
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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 14:52

Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 14:52
Truckster,
I did some damage to the RH bumper end on my GU, the cost is around $400 just as a rough quote from Nissan, that's with out the light fitting and the light. I'm nearly there for the swingaway carrier, it won't take many of these accidents to run up the cost of a wheel carrier, the flares around the wheel arch are $300 and $500, so if you do the three bits at once your up around the $1200 mark, doesn't take long to mount up.
That's it, I convinced myself, the carrier is the way to go, it's easier to justify when you write it down............LOL
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 16:31

Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 16:31
Wen I Priced a carrier, it was bar was $1400, and about $400 per wheel carrier. so thats way too much for about $200 in steel.
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Follow Up By: duncs - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 17:03

Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 17:03
Yeah that would be right Truckster but even companies like Kaymar need to make a profit.

Having built my own wheel carrier in the past I understand some of the thought and effort that goes into these things.

Add the time required to build the thing at what my boss pays me and I am better off to buy the finished article even if it costs more than the sum of the material cost.

By contrast I have built more than one storage system because I can make a worthwhile saving and get what suits me rather than what is on offer commercially. None of which do what I want.

We all make these decisions all the time. Take away food is another example. Rarely as good as what you cook at home and always dearer but sometimes the convenience makes it worthwhile.

Now that seems like more thatn 2c worth, no offense meant.
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Follow Up By: DARREN - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 17:59

Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 17:59
Bonz you can get a spacer from ARB, basically what Captain has made, and can hold work light.
About $80 from memory which is an expensive piece of steel but I am not much of a welder so had little choice.
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Follow Up By: Member - ramp - Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 23:59

Monday, Aug 02, 2004 at 23:59
hi bonz,why not turn the spare wheel around and put a wheel cover over it so the inside of the rim is not seen.,i have 285 and so far no problem with rear door hinges etc.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 03, 2004 at 12:38

Tuesday, Aug 03, 2004 at 12:38
Duncs, no offence taken..

but with professional companies that make bars, they have the templates and crap ready for most common cars. They probably have a computer that cuts the steel for them, if not it would be a drone, and a drone to weld it together, no more than $500 at the best for material and labour and machinery.

I dont mind payin fair prices for things, but when profit is over the top, I do take offence!

PS mate worked for them once, and they worked out at the time, a Swingaway carrier even with painting was under $80, they sell for $400.

Wish I could weld, and have access to shops and materials to make things like this.. :'(
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Follow Up By: duncs - Friday, Aug 06, 2004 at 15:44

Friday, Aug 06, 2004 at 15:44
Hey Truckster,

Been a while since you sent this but have had viral probs and couldn't get to email.

I am with you in the wish list.

Once got access to a high school metal work room and with a bit of coaching managed to produce a couple of door sill for the old MQ saved myself a fortune and had fun along the way.

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