3" body lift- IFS 100 series

Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 00:37
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I have a IFS 100 series running 285/75R16 MTR's, front and rear lockers, Arb front & side bars. Pretty much goes (mostly) every where but with a lot of SCRAPPING up rocks etc.. Thinking of putting in a 3" body lift to fit 35" tyres under it to help with the approach angles.
Will this make a difference?
What other options would you recomend?
What size tyres/brand?

Thanks Heaps
Steven.J
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 01:41

Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 01:41
My understanding is the you can only lift the front of the 100 series by a maximum of 35mm.
This is due to the problem of cracking the front knuckles on the IFS.
Very serious and expensive damage.

Talk to ARB about this I think they will tell you it's a no go.
This has been posted on here before search the archives for further info.
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Follow Up By: Steve J - Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 01:51

Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 01:51
John (Vic),
yeh I know of some of the problems with winding up the bars, that's why I'm looking at the 3" BODY LIFT to try and get some 35" tyres under it to try and raise it that little bit more.
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 07:33

Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 07:33
How about lowering the front diff to get the cv angle back to normal. Like Isuzu and Toyota Forerunner?

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 13:16

Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 13:16
Sorry Steve to early in the morning for me half asleep when I read the post.
The only thing that registerd was LIFT not BODY Lift.
I think Go_Offroad has your answer in this case.

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Follow Up By: Steve J - Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 16:47

Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 16:47
John (Vic)
that's cool, I'm feeling the same now- half asleep
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Reply By: fozzy - Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 07:45

Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 07:45
steve
i have a tjmbarwhich gives about 20mm more clearance at front compared to genuine toyota one or ecb. not sure about arb one but worth measuring all of them.
op lock supply torsion bars(arb may have them now but had problems earlier with them) and can gain plenty of lift but not recommended to high
on mine i have tjm bar and torsion bars and have gained approx 65mm lift from centre of front wheel cap(20mm from bar on standard bar etc and using 45mm lift from torsion bar) recommended by suspension blokes(not arb)
who can do the body lift?
with above and body lift would create a reasonable height
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Reply By: GO_OFFROAD - Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 09:30

Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 09:30
Some of you guys arent understanding "body lift" vs "suspension lift"

But you dont need 3" bodylift to clear 35's on a 100, you can make them fit with suspension lift, and a little mudflap trimming, which you would still need to do with the bodylift anyway.

You can lift the body about 10mm [to help a full articulation] using the factory bolts as well, save all the gear box boot, radiator, brake line, etc etc hassle sof a 3" body lift, which wont lift the suspension, bullbar, rear step anyway.

The front end can be spaced, and you need to keep aprox 60mm droop minimum on the shock.
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Follow Up By: Steve J - Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 16:44

Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 16:44
GO_OFFROAD,
the problem with the suspension lift (which i would love to have) is the torssion bars (the joy's of IFS) can be wound up about approax 35mm before they start messing up and cracking the mounts (i'm told). The bars are going to be moved up along with the body
Thanks
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 18:51

Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 18:51
The same load is on the t bars and mounts regardless of where they sit in the shocks limited travel range, so there is no "extra" force which could cause issues outside of those which people are having trouble with already.

I have been looking for someone who wants a suspension lift done, to do a coil over conversion on the front of a 100, to solve the front end issues they currently have, along with breaking the A arm where the T bar mounts.

The body lift isnt required to fit the tyres you wish to run though.
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Follow Up By: Steve J - Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 00:44

Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 00:44
GO_OFFROAD,
I had first wanted to get the IFS cut out and have it replaced with a rigid front end but the cost out weighed the desire. 25% of what I paid for the ride was a ball park figure given due to the ABS, Airbags etc..
I DON'T KNOW, I'M NO ENGINEER OR HANDY WITH A SPANNER FOR THAT MANNER
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 07:55

Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 07:55
What area are you in Steve?

If Vic, happy to look at it for you, and discuss with you what is required in "real time" to better help you understand what you need to do what you want.

It certainly isnt overly difficult.
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Follow Up By: Steve J - Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 09:26

Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 09:26
Wollongong NSW
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 11:08

Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 11:08
if you go to www.lcool.org and join the 80_aus email list, look for Andrew Lukies, who lives in the "gong" he does some work on cruisers, and may be able to help you work out what needs doing and what doesnt, to get what you need happening with the cruiser.
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Follow Up By: fozzy - Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 11:15

Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 11:15
how do i get in contact with you
would be interested in discussing coils for front
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 11:20

Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 11:20
You can email me at darrenm@bigpond.net.au
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Follow Up By: Rob/D.Plain - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 22:40

Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 22:40
GO OFFROAD,

Read what you said about the 10mm body lift and spacing the front.
Q: Is this difficult to do?

Would you also recommend changing the torsion bars or winding up the the standard 35mm.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 22:47

Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 22:47
It is pretty simple to do, if you are handy with spanners, and have access to the machines to make the spacers etc.
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Follow Up By: Rob/D.Plain - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 23:10

Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 23:10
I will inquire into getting this done professonaly. I have been looking into the suspension on my ifs, I think at this stage Iwill wind the front up 35mm and the 10mm body lift might just do it.

Thanks Rob.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 12:36

Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 12:36
Yeah GO_OFFROAD I think has the most "doable" suggestion. You don't want to lift the body too high because it just causes major hassles like extending gear sticks, spacing bullbars, moving radiators, etc. YUCK! But a small body lift will go along way with bigger tyres and a good suspensions lift. It'll be a monster in no time.

I have the same problem, I go everywhere I want to, a close call on sunday though! LOL But there are a few scrapes and bump here and there, mainly because of the crappy departure angle on the surf/forunner. But there are just so many other things I want to do (Spend money on) it before I worry about raising it up any...
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Reply By: Coops (Pilbara) - Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 14:02

Wednesday, Aug 11, 2004 at 14:02
Steve
I completed a 50mm bodylift on my 80 Series and I thoroughly recommend that you stay away from this option.
Radiator & shroud alignment will cause you much grief
short stick is now very short and rubs
Front & Rear bars look way too silly
Shakes and rattles galore
A 3" body lift will have many additional problems (brake lines, air conditioning, fuel lines, hoses etc).
You don't see many 80 Series with body lifts (I've not seen another here in WA) and if anyone else is reading/contemplating then opt for 40mm to avoid gearstick issues)

Steve, I would recommend sticking to the 285's (not that hard a compromise really is it?) but try the 35mm suspension lift if 35" tyres are a must have.
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Reply By: Brad - Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 19:16

Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 19:16
Off topic I know Steve J, but i have a LC100 IFS with similar setup - but never worried about aftermarket side bars/steps.
Are they worth it ?
Thanks,
Brad.
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Follow Up By: Steve J - Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 23:37

Thursday, Aug 12, 2004 at 23:37
After I folded the originals a couple of times I put on the steel ones, and the have saved the sills more than once
Steve J
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