1hdfte 100 IFS owners

Submitted: Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:16
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Pic link below shows where to check on A arm.

BROKEN FRONT T BAR MOUNT ON 100 IFS A ARM

spoke with someone from this forum last night who looked at some
pics sent to me a week or so ago, and I noticed rust on the broken
section of the front A arms where they had collapsed, and then clean
break, which indicated a progressive failure,rather than a catastrophic
failure, this pic is from one of 5 I have heard about in last few weeks.

This person took the pics to a guy he knew this morning who has a 4
month old 100 ifs, 17000km with 14,000km of that touring through the
Kimberlies recently, with non "adjusted" standard T bars, standard
shocks, bull bar and dual batteries.

They found stress cracks in the arms of this truck where they break,
which have not yet broken through, but showing movement, so those
of you with IFS 100's can keep an eye on the trouble spots for the
moment while a solution is decided on by those who need to do so.
In the mean time, if you cant check yours, maybe go to your dealer, get
them to check, especially if going on, or just back from a trip, and if you
do check and find a crack, let your dealer know before it becomes a bigger
problem.

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Reply By: Member - Gary W (VIC) - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:26

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:26
Thanks for the tip

gaz
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:43

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:43
Hi GO_OFFROAD,

Its very good to see you showing the problems with IFS on the 100 series. While I am sure this is a stress fatigue failure caused by corrugations on gravel roads, it will be interesting to see how Toyota handle this. As many 100 series IFS vehicles will rarely even see a gravel road, most owners will not have a problem.

IMHO it should require a recall to replace the lower arm with a more robust one, as the consequences of this failure could be catastrophic. But will Toyota take the easy (cheap) option and simply replace under warranty after failure (as per Nissan with the series II 3.0TD failures).

After our recent forum jousting, I take my hat off to you for highlighting this problem with Toyotas.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:51

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:51
I dont care who makes it, if it is possible to save someone some grief by having a look, when something becomes known, then it has been worth while.

Generaly toyota do a blanket recall, regardless on any issue, if they deem it to be required, and hold it even past the build cycle of the model, from previous experience. [IMHO not speaking for them]

Also the more the dealer is aware, the more toyota are aware, and closer they can monitor it.

And my sense of humor wont let the odd shot over the bow go astray on any model 8-)))
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 14:06

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 14:06
Captain,

If it is deemed a safety issue by the authorities then there would by law be a recall. Back when the Landscruisser 60# were first on the market they were all recalled and had all steering and relay rods replaced to bigger units.

As Go_offroad said notify your dealer if you have one but also ask him to submit a "dealer product report"I am sure all manufacturers have one or something similar.

Also if you believe you have a vehicle safety defect you can advise the transport authorities here.
Notification of Safety defect

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:49

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:49
But daz.. you told us they were bullet proof? :P~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:52

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:52
Are you saying someone is shooting the A arms and making them break? 8-)))
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 15:18

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 15:18
Is this only on the 04 model or is it for previous models as well, we have friends with one 03 model, but they don't go off road or tow, which beggs the question why did they buy it in the first place.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 15:44

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 15:44
without wanting to go off topic about the right to be able to purchase what you want, I will say the pic I have linked at the top is from a 2002 model.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 16:11

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 16:11
OH WHAT A FEELING.. NO STEERING.

WOOHOO!
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:51

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:51
Has been an issue with pre 95 models for many years, have seen lots of cracked ones, but it seems to be stress cracks around the mounting points which are attached to inner and outer of the rail, havent heard of one losing a steering box as yet.
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:52

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:52
100,000Ks NO FAILURES
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:53

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:53
yea but it needed to be towed out of the high country LMAO!!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 14:06

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 14:06
Winched out of trouble, get it right.

Nobody been winched here hey !!!!
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 18:25

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 18:25
we all have been winched mate , but not from a pussy track like that lol

hahahah only serious mate lol
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Reply By: fozzy - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:56

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 13:56
will certainly keep eye out for this and pass on
bit of a worry
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Reply By: Phil G - Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:19

Friday, Aug 13, 2004 at 17:19
I mentioned one of the breakages that happened around camp 13 on the Madigan Line. Amazing thing was that that 100series was able to be driven on its bumpstops for another 5 days until it reached Birdsville. Says a lot for the strength of the rest of it. It was also the first vehicle in our group up Big Red.
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Reply By: sean - Saturday, Aug 14, 2004 at 10:24

Saturday, Aug 14, 2004 at 10:24
It does not matter if it only happens to one vehicle in one hundred after years of service. It is a serious safety issue and Toyota will act accordingly. I think the only reason the mass recall has not happened as yet is they dont know what the fix will be.

Sean
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Sunday, Aug 15, 2004 at 18:48

Sunday, Aug 15, 2004 at 18:48
Thanks for the heads up champ, Toyo t-bars usually just go soft and mushy, bit of a concern if they are now experiencing fatigue in the mounts as well... Just thinking that the prob will be worse if you have up rated t-bars , and front bar / winch as well !!

Thanks again, Brad
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