cetane value of diesel
Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 24, 2004 at 16:07
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JamieMac
has anyone confirmed the actual cetane value of the diesel they are using? It was min 46 when I looked on a few fuel distributor/manufacturer websites the other day. OK for me as 45 is the min for my 4.2 TDi Patrol. I note, however , that the handbook states that the 3.0 engine should have a higher level, 50 cetane if I recall correctly. Could this be damaging engines?
Reply By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 24, 2004 at 16:13
Tuesday, Aug 24, 2004 at 16:13
Punched 'cetane' into google and this is what I got...
There is no benefit to using a higher cetane number fuel than is specified by the engine's manufacturer. The ASTM Standard Specification for Diesel Fuel Oils (D-975) states, "The cetane number requirements depend on engine design, size, nature of speed and load variations, and on starting and atmospheric conditions. Increase in cetane number over values actually required does not materially improve engine performance. Accordingly, the cetane number specified should be as low as possible to insure maximum fuel availability." This quote underscores the importance of matching engine cetane requirements with fuel cetane number.
Diesel fuels with cetane number lower than minimum engine requirements can cause rough engine operation. They are more difficult to start, especially in cold weather or at high altitudes. They accelerate lube oil sludge formation. Many low cetane fuels increase engine deposits resulting in more smoke, increased exhaust emissions and greater engine wear.
Using fuels which meet engine operating requirements will improve cold starting, reduce smoke during start-up, improve fuel economy, reduce exhaust emissions, improve engine durability and reduce noise and vibration. These engine fuel requirements are published in the operating manual for each specific engine or vehicle.
Overall fuel quality and performance depend on the ratio of parafinic and aromatic hydrocarbons, the presence of sulfur, water, bacteria, and other contaminants, and the fuel's resistance to oxidation. The most important measures of fuel quality include API gravity, heat value (BTU content), distillation range and viscosity. Cleanliness and corrosion resistance are also important. For use in cold weather, cloud point and low temperature filter plugging point must receive serious consideration. Cetane number does not measure any of these characteristics.
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Reply By: Rossco100series - Tuesday, Aug 24, 2004 at 20:56
Tuesday, Aug 24, 2004 at 20:56
Cetane number usually between 30 - 60, that indicate's the ability of the diesel fuel to ignite quickly once it has been injected into the combustion chamber. Thus the higher the number the more easily the fuel will ignite. The lower the number the slower it will ignite and may lead to engine running rough and more polution. But also remember that running higher cetane number fuel that is recommended may not improve the engine's performance due to a number of factors.
What I have wrote has all been said before.
Rossco ( Shell Refinery )
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Follow Up By: JamieMac - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:34
Wednesday, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:34
Hi Rossco,
Thanks for your replay mate. In response to 'What I have wrote has all been said before.' I could not find any relevant info doing a search in ExplorOz for effect of low Cetane value fuel. I even understand the significane of the Cetane value on the fuels characteristics. I have no issue personally as all fuel meets the spec for my car as far as I can ascertain. I still see no justification for using a lower spec fuel as it obviously effects the engines proper operation.
I am not advocating the use of higher Ceatane than specified similar to the way higher octane premium petrol is used and promoted. I accept that an engine will run with some degraded performance on the lower cetane fuel but what are the long term effects?
That was the question I posed and I can't see an answer to this in either your response nor that above. I have looked, albeit not extensively, on the wider internet but have not seen an answer there either. I guess that could indicate that it is not a big issue, but I am no expert on the science of fuel.
cheers
JamieMac
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Reply By: Oz Trekker - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 07:30
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 07:30
G'day JamieMac,
Cetane is to diesel engines as octane is to petrol engines. The cetane number is a measure of how readily the fuel starts to burn - a fuel with a high cetane rating will burn shortly after it has been injected into the engine or in other words, it has a short ignition delay period. Conversely, fuel with a lower cetane rating has a longer ignition delay period and this causes the condition known as 'diesel knock'.
Although the cetane number of a fuel is assumed to predict it's ignition delay in any diesel engine, the actual cetane number is valid only for the single cylinder engine in which it was measured. The fuel's performance in other engines may differ.
In answer to your question as to whether lower cetane rated fuel could damage engines - long term use would most likely have some effect, but it would be so small as to be negligible. Up here in
Darwin our diesel comes in from Singapore and it has a lower cetane rating than Australian produced fuel - I have noticed when I go down south that my Troopy seems to get a new lease of life with the higher cetane fuel.
I hope this has made some sort of sense to you.
Jeff
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