Changing wheels from 15 to 16 inch - Difficult??
Submitted: Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 01:05
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Moneypit
I am in the market for a new Jayco Outback Swan. For some reason dealers seem to be stalling me on only one point. I want to get it delivered with 16" wheels and tyres to suit the Nissan GU 7 seater and they are all telling me that they have them with 15" and if I want the 16's it has to be ordered from Jayco factory and will not be delivered [depending on which dealer anywhere from Mid October to mid December]. They are all being told that the wheels are a deal breaker but it seems that doesn't matter.
My question then is if I go ahead and buy it with the 15's is it difficult for me to change it to 16's later on or is it necessary to have them on at the start.
I have been thinking about it and I can probably wear out the 15's before I'm going to be in
places where having all round 16's is going to be an issue. I just want to know if it presents me with any problems [other than 3 15 inch rims to get rid of].
Looking forward to the responses. [and if anyone is in the market for a Jayco
Melbourne is the cheapest place in Australia to get them new - 2K cheaper than
Perth for the same setup]
Regards
Dave
Reply By: Chris (W.A.) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:21
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:21
Dave,
Request 16 inch - that simple. Bloody Jaycos are not cheap. Spending that much they should show a bit of "professional courtesy".
If they refuse it's your call. Should your buy cease because they will only supply 15inch?
You can get white rims for $60 each (maybe cheaper elsewhere).
Remember, and as you will probably know there is less exposure to the tyre wall with 16 inch.
Hit the tosser hard and make them look after you, not just themselves.
Make them offer a discount if you want the larger rims for crying out loud!! IE cover or justify the cost for the rim and consequent tyre change.
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Follow Up By: Chris (W.A.) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:24
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:24
and 16 inch rims will fit on no worries
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Reply By: Member - Bob - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 07:59
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 07:59
Changing hubs, axle and wheels is easy, and not very costly. Why not price Nissan hubs independantly and consider doing it yourself? Most trailer builders do this sort of job daily. It woul;d be nicer if Jayco could do it for you. I changed my trailer from suiting the LX470 to suiting the landrover and it wasn't too painful.
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Reply By: Rosco - Bris. - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:44
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:44
Dave
I assume the stud pattern is the same. In that event get them to supply the rig without wheels at a lower price and supply your own.
They can put on any old rubbish for delivery purposes and swap to yours when you pick it up.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 11:02
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 11:02
Hi Moneypit,
When I bought my van, it had 16" wheels (with 6 stud cruiser hubs) but as my cruiser had 15" I had them swapped to suit when I purchased. They did it immediately and it was no dramas at all (all 3 wheels swapped). Just make sure they have the same rolling diameter (eg. 31x10.5xR15 = 265x70xR16).
If you are trying to change overall diameter, there could be an issue with guard clearance. Also, if the Jayco has 5 stud hubs, that could be why they want it changed at the factory rather than mess around changing hubs themselves.
As my van hubs are 6 stud, they will take my GU rims (16") and I can still use my spare GU tyre on the van in a pinch (but they will have different rolling diameters). Its probably more important to make sure your hubs are matched, this way you can swap 15" and 16" rims around if necessary.
Cheers
Captain
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Reply By: flappan - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 16:29
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 16:29
One thing with fitting bigger wheels , is the associated Canvas work (Annex & Walls).
Fitting bigger wheels and tyres , could make the van higher the 1 inch diff between the 15's & 16's.
This will effect the Canvas.
The Wind skirt will be shorter (not many are made with an extra inch length to them) , and your Annex walls will be an inch shorter , so the walls wont be square , and close to the van will be too short.
Just something to think about , if you buy it with 15's then whack 16's on it.
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Follow Up By: flappan - Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 16:49
Thursday, Aug 26, 2004 at 16:49
OK, had a look at their website.
Standard wheels are 235/75/R15
Outback Option is
› 16” wheels (235/70R16 or 265/70R16) Max size 780(d) X 275(w)
If your using "standard" GU Wheels and Tyres (265/70/R16) no other reason they shouldn't fit them , other then its an "option" , reason enough for a wait I guess.
If your using the 265/75/R16 's or bigger , like a lot of GU's use , then using Coopers AT's as a guide.
235/75/R15 = 737mm
235/70/R16 = 733mm
265/70/R16 = 772mm
265/75/R16 = 803mm (too big for their Max size).
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Reply By: Moneypit - Friday, Aug 27, 2004 at 22:10
Friday, Aug 27, 2004 at 22:10
Thanks for the answers. Still playing a game of Mexican Standoff. Flappan raised a good point that I hadn't thought of but none of the salesmen have used that as the reason. If they had I would probably have not become as annoyed as I did. Given that thye haven't mentioned it I'm guessing its probably got the inch built into it for that very reason.
Dave
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