Jerry/Gerry Cans used for petrol, now i want to use them with diesel?
Submitted: Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 11:30
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Jonoc
Good Day to You
I have some gerry's (they are named after the germans after all :) ) that i have been using for my boat filling them with unleaded ( just unleaded no oil).
My question is I want to use them to hold diesel now, can i just empty them out and fill them up with diesel, or do i have to clean them with something first?
I would have thought that maybe all i have to do is fill em with a little bit of diesel and swish the thing around a bit , then pour it out , then fill it with diesel would be alright , however , i have heard of all sort of explosive and negative things happening when traces of non diesel liquids are put through the engine.
Cheers Jono
P.s The beast is a 2.8Litre Hilux naturally aspirated , if that is important.
Reply By: Banjo (SA) - Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 11:33
Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 11:33
Can't imagine the genuine "traces" being a problem - as you say - swish a bit of diesel around, drain and then fill. I hav used them for alternate fuels with nairy a problem.
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Follow Up By: Jonoc - Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 11:40
Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 11:40
I thought as much.
However, you do understand my hesitation and desire to check with you guy's , as you guys might understand my lux is my baby, and babies break when you shake em so i wante to make sure traces of diesel don;t shake the damn thing up.
Cheers Jono
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Follow Up By: Jonoc - Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 11:43
Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 11:43
my bad , I meant traces of petrol :)
Mistakes like that take the black humour away from comments like that.
Cheers Jono
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Reply By: cokeaddict - Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 11:43
Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 11:43
Hi Jono,
Just make sure when you "swish" that you do it clockwise....stirred NOT shaken !
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Reply By: Member - Camper (SA) - Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 12:48
Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 12:48
Yep,
Did just that with a marine diesel years ago with no problems. i think I left the cap off for a few days to evaporate any left over petrol then did the swill trick.
Camper
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Reply By: Moose - Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 13:41
Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 13:41
G'day Mate
The amount of petrol that's left in the jerries after you drain them will not affect your diesel - you don't even need to swish and empty. A mate with a diesel accidentally fed it a
tank full of petrol and whilst it did stop after a bit it has suffered no long term ill effects (it's been a few years since he did it and he's still driving it - but he is a lot more careful at the bowser!). So don't worry about having a trace of petrol in the jerries.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 14:09
Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 14:09
I asked the same question on here about a year ago and was told not to worry about it as it all comes from the same crude anyway so the tiny amount left in the jerry is not going to cause any problems, I did it and never looked back. I have an EFI diesel, so if I didn't have a problem, you wont!
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Reply By: KIM - Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 17:53
Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 17:53
Hi Jonoc
If you want to be sure the containers are de-gassed, place a hose in them and, after filling allow, the
water to overflow for around 15 minutes.
Cheers
Kim
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Follow Up By: Member - Brett H (QLD) - Saturday, Sep 18, 2004 at 13:35
Saturday, Sep 18, 2004 at 13:35
Don't do this. We are in a drought.
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Reply By: Andrew from TrekTable - Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 21:47
Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 21:47
Jonac,
No problems mixing them provided the residual levels are low (ie make sure they are empty).
I share a single jerry can between my petrol powered outboard and diesel main engine with no problems.
However, never put kerosene into a jerry can which has been used for petrol if you have a kero fridge. It stuffs up the wick.
Andrew
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Reply By: Eric Experience. - Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 22:42
Friday, Sep 17, 2004 at 22:42
Jono.
Alpine diesel is 10% petrol, so you can relax about your baby, I would not place any
water in a steel can that is asking for trouble. Eric.
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Reply By: KIM - Saturday, Sep 18, 2004 at 18:39
Saturday, Sep 18, 2004 at 18:39
In my previous post I discussed how fuel containers should be treated in response to Jonac's question. The main problem is not the contanimation of fuels within a container, but rather the condition they are left in after a long trip (for example).
Most people believe an emty container is safe. However, if it doe's not go through some form of de-gassing, which maybe ventilation or washing, the residual gas will remain.
It is this residual gas that is explosive.
In answer to Brett's post, diesel fuel mixture in the high country can be as high as 70% diesel-30% heating oil. The reason this is done by fuel companies and distributors, is to stop their product turning to jelly in very low temps
I supplied a large
mine East of
Omeo some years ago with fuel and had some difficulty in convincing the major oil company (I was working for) that the mixture needed to be 50% diesel-50% heating oil. After the loss of 80,000 litres they saw reason.
Finally, If you go to pump and the price looks too good to be true, drive away.
Regards
Kim
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