TO INTERCOOL OR NOT TO INTERCOOL!
Submitted: Sunday, Sep 19, 2004 at 13:31
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Ruffstuff
Hi all,
Ive been baffled with BS and need some non-sales
feedback from the experienced folk out there.
I am considering fitting a turbo to my 96 80 series 1HZwith 160,000 on the clock.
I am fairly keen on getting the turbo but not so sure about shelling out the extra dollars for an intercooler as it is a fair outllay of cash in one hit, not to mention getting approval from swmbo .
I do a fair bit of long distance driving and most of my trips are up the northern part of the country(
kimberley ,NT
cape york etc) where the temperature is a little higher than here in
Perth WA.
I dont want to jeprodise the reliability of my 80, and i am unsure if not having one will put extra stress on the motor leading to a shortened engine life.
I am intending on setting the boost around the 8 to 10psi range
There are also the differing opinions of front versus top mounted.
Ive heard that the top mounted as
well as being a heat soak can also make general engine servicing more difficult- is this correct?
any feed back would be aprreciated, especially from those who have done a bit of travelling up north with a turbo fitted to their vehicle.
( i have checked the archives )
Thanks
Reply By: NissanofOld - Sunday, Sep 19, 2004 at 15:33
Sunday, Sep 19, 2004 at 15:33
The top mounted intercoolers only really fall down in performance in slow driving (low range), in hot conditions. With highway cruising you won’t see much of a performance drop. A top mounted intercooler may also be a lot easier to fit, as you don't have to try an sort out a lot of plumbing issues getting past the radiator, aircon condenser etc.
Adding an intercooler to the front of the radiator (where is should be placed) will increase the loads on the radiator, aircon condenser and even oil cooler, if you have an auto and one fitted. With the top mounted intercooler, only the efficiency of the intercooler is affected in slow driving.
Fitting of an intercooler is not just a bolt on affair, it must be matched to the turbo, injectors may have to be replaced and fuelling will need to be altered. Everything has to be able to work together as one, else you may be wasting money.
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Follow Up By: Ruffstuff - Sunday, Sep 19, 2004 at 20:26
Sunday, Sep 19, 2004 at 20:26
Thanks for the
feedback so far, its good to get other opinions based on actual experience.
cheers
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Reply By: Member - Reece S (QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004 at 09:33
Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004 at 09:33
The "are.com.au" site was very interesting but a bit confusing when they mix farenheit and celsius temps in the one article.
They talk about pre-IC temps of up to 140dC and next paragraph they say 150dF for a 600HP banger.
My non-IC turbo diesel intake plenum doesn't get very hot at all and I can easily hold my hand on it, so what's the go with the temps they are talking about (140dC)???
In fact I can hold my hand on the compressor side of the turbo without discomfort.
If the the water temps (in an a water-air system) are so high (140dC), surely you need a really big radiator to the vent the heat to the atmosphere.
Will someone please explain?? Or is "secret intercoolers business" LOL
Cheers
Oskar
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Follow Up By: Rossco100series - Saturday, Sep 25, 2004 at 15:36
Saturday, Sep 25, 2004 at 15:36
Howdy Oskar
The water to air intercooler project is doing
well up to pressure testing this will be a destruction
test to see how much leeway I have to play on the boast and being safe. Then I will another and fit and do actual efficiency tests to see how it performs.
Rossco
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Follow Up By: Rossco100series - Saturday, Sep 25, 2004 at 15:38
Saturday, Sep 25, 2004 at 15:38
sorry oskar I will make another intercooler and fit it to the GU and do efficiency testing and dyno testing.
Rossco
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