Snatch Strap attachment to ARB bullbar??
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Member - John D (NT)
I have just fitted a new ARB late model bullbar to my 100 series 2002 standard cruiser. It has built in jack points on the bullbar. Does anyone know whether a snatch strap or towing bridle etc can be directly attached to the bar or is it necessary to use hooks fitted to chassis ??
Thanks for any advice
Reply By: gottabjoaken - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004 at 12:58
Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004 at 12:58
My advice - for what it may be worth,
would be to return to the dealer who installed the Bull Bar, and ask them. Get their approval according to their judgement. They should be able to make that decision, not anyone else who hasn't actually seen the work.
It is not the strength, macho-ness, material, colour, or manufacturer of the bull bar that matters, it is how
well it is attached to the chassis.
Anyway, why not use the hooks on the chassis. That (PERHAPS) is what they are for.
A Bull Bar through the back window is only slightly less disconcerting than a hook !!!
Ken
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Reply By: Member - John D (NT) - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004 at 13:50
Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004 at 13:50
G'day Gottabjoaken.
Points taken. I will
check with dealer. My confusion on topic stemmed from an article I thought I read some time ago on a 4WD site about some new model bars being designed for snatching applications??? And compounded by the fact that at the Hi Lift jack fittings on the bar there appears to be metal guides welded in place to assist placement of strap which I would then assume was to be led down and attached to securely fitted hooks.
As you are probably aware, the standard loop fittings on the chassis of 100 series are not designed for anything other than being used for tie-down points for the vehicle on it's way over from Japan. Not for any other purposes - esprecially snatching.
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004 at 16:51
Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004 at 16:51
John, just reading your comment re the tie down loops fitted to the 100. I asked the same question and the reply I got was that if the loops are fixed with high tensile bolts, then the steel loop would be strong enough to use as a recovery point. They are made from 12mm steel and most unlikely to bend or let go.
If you opt to replace them with a hook, get a hook with a "keeper" fitted to keep the wire/rope/protector from falling off.
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004 at 18:37
Wednesday, Sep 22, 2004 at 18:37
Do NOT use a tree trunk protector as a bridle, they are not designed to have the force in one particular spot which would happen if used as a bridle.
The best bridle is a short length of chain specifically made up for that use with grab hooks both ends.
If chain breaks (
heaven forbid) it falls in a heap and there are no shackles involved to become missiles.
Lots of accidents are caused by the incorrect use of snatch straps, if there is a need to do more than a gentle tug with a couple of metres slack then other recovery methods should be used.
You are not meant to back up nearly to the stuck vehicle and then nail it!
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2004 at 13:26
Thursday, Sep 23, 2004 at 13:26
I had a barney with ARB over use of eyes on my winch bar on my 2002 Courier. It has an airbag compliant bar on it and I was discussing use of their hi-lift jack adapter which I bought on the recommendation of an ARB dealer.
You won't believe how high up the food chain I had to get before someone finally verified what I had suspected all along. The rubber overrider blocks on the front of the bar which obstruct use of the adapter were for decoration not - as had been previously stated by dealers and the guys on the ARB stand at the 4wd show - for supposedly airbag compliance and to prevent low impact detonations.
What really surprised me, as I can find no reference anywhere to it in their literature, is that the engineering bloke I spoke to at ARB said I can't/shouldn't jack of the airbag compliant bar as they don't
test it for vertical loading and you could damage the airbag crumple thingy built into the bar mount.
Hard to get good info - even worse when you find out that so many people are risking their vehicle based on the reasonable assumption that they sell an adapter to suit the towpoint therefore you can use it.
Dave
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