Inverters drawing power on stanby

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 10:50
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It has been suggested to me that an inverter will draw between 5 & 20% of its rated power just turned on without any load on it. That is to say a 300 watt inverter will draw between 1.25 and 5 amps before you even start drawing any power from it.

Any thoughts?

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Jim.
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Reply By: navaraman - Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 10:59

Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 10:59
Hey Jim just read this five mins ago on another site.

http://forums.overlander.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=20394
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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 11:36

Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 11:36
That's where I saw it, just not sure if it's accurate.

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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 11:28

Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 11:28
Jim, I haven't yet read Navaramans report, but I can tell you this......

Out of the 3 units I have, the DSE 300 Pure sine wave does draw a small amount of power on standby, this is for both the circuitry & cooling fan.

On the other 2 units, I have simply left them on all of the time, with no noticeable drain on battery power.

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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 11:38

Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 11:38
Thanks Ian,

I just can't believe a tiny fan and circuitry could draw a lot of power.

Jim.
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 12:12

Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 12:12
My 4 year old Dick Smith 300W non sine wave inverter draws 600mA quiescent current. I have put a switch on the fan both to save a bit of current when the inverter is powering a small load and because the fan noise irritates me when I'm in the bush, however the fan only draws about 50mA.

I imaging the above figures will be typical for non sine wave inverters although more recent designs may be a bit better.

Mike Harding
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 13:03

Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 13:03
I find that extremely hard to believe Jimbo, theres simply not enough circuitry there to consume that much power. I would expect under an amp at the worst
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Reply By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 15:13

Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 15:13
A lot depends on the quality and type of inverter. None will draw anything like 5 amps, but a chain-store special 300-watt inverter may draw around an amp (due to magnetisation losses in the transformer).

Better quality inverters have a 'sleep mode'. They detect when something is switched on - and spring immediately to life. A typical 300-watt such device will draw a bit over one third of an amp whilst in sleep mode.

Be very cautious with cheap inverters: this is well and truly a field where you get what you pay for. A good sine-wave inverter still costs at least $1 per watt. Yes - you can buy them for a third of that. But it's really not a clever idea to do so.
Trust this helps
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Reply By: Member - Ron H (Int) - Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 16:02

Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 16:02
Jimbo
Why not run your inverter through a multimeter on amps and see what it says
regards Ron
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Reply By: Member - Toonfish - Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 17:03

Sunday, Nov 07, 2004 at 17:03
good call collyn
my 400 watt invertor can draw up to 1 amp just to account for heat loss magnetism and fan while on standby .
hard to believe people dont read there manuals?

everything comes at a cost.

why not fit a isolator so the unit is only powered when you think you will need it such as a fuse from the second battery (if fitted) or even a powered switch?

just a thought
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Reply By: Brian - Monday, Nov 08, 2004 at 11:59

Monday, Nov 08, 2004 at 11:59
My Prostar Solar regulator shows that our pure sinewave 1800 watt inverter fitted in the caravan draws 1amp when it is in standby mode. You can hear a fan going in it, so it has to use some power.

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Follow Up By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Thursday, Nov 11, 2004 at 19:15

Thursday, Nov 11, 2004 at 19:15
Re Brian's response - the original query realted to a 300-watt inverter, but the stand-by draw is related to inverter size - so it can be a concern with some big units.

It's worth checking before buying as there as some use a lot more than others. It's always in the full tech specs.
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