Replacement fuel filters....
Submitted: Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 13:18
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Member - Haldo (Sydney)
I have a CAV fuel filter setup as replacement for the OEM on my 94 Toyota Landcruiser turbo diesel.
Went to change the Delphi 296 cartridge filter with a Ryco filter. I was assurred the Ryco R2132P cartridge would do the job as good as the old 296. Been using their products for many years without problems.
Fitted the Ryco the same way as the 296 came off. Replaced all gaskets with the new ones which came with the new filter.
Tightened the base screw nice and firm. Primed the pump and found diesel leaked out of a tiny space between the top of the Ryco filter and the CAV housing.
Lucky I had a spare new Delphi 296. Once fitted (the same way as I did the Ryco) I had no problems.
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Sent an email to Ryco and had a chap ring back the next morning. Now that's what I call good cutomer service. However, he couldn't solve my problem. Suggested I use one of the old gaskets.
Emails have been sent to Denco in Wagga as
well as MrFilter in Toongabbie. Waiting replies.
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Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any ideas where I may have made a blue?
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I'm glad I wasn't on the red dirt without a spare cartridge......
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Reply By: Member - Ben R (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 15:35
Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 15:35
I had the same problem but found I hadn't removed the old gasket from in the adapter housing - ie I had two gaskets in situ. Silly but easy to do....
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Follow Up By: Member - Ben R (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 15:36
Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 15:36
Forgot to mention that I also use the Ryco elements...
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Follow Up By: Member - Haldo (Sydney) - Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 15:50
Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 15:50
Thanks Ben.
I made sure I took the old gasket out of the housing.
Put the new one in.
I was puzzled when the Ryco chap suggested I use an old gasket with the new one as I understand rubber against rubber (gaskets) will not normally provide the best possible sealing properties.
I inspected both cartridges and I think the upper lip of the Ryco isn't deep enough to reach the gasket proerly.
Oh
well, all I have to do is find the supplier of the 296 filters.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 20:15
Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 20:15
G'day Haldo,
Yes mate, I've had the same problem, but not with RYCO filter.
Mine did the same thing using a New Holland filter and also a couple of others.
Now, when I buy filters, I check what they look like on top. Some (ie: New Holland and others, probably includes the Ryco type) have a series of little "bumps" around the edge, near the lip where it has to seal to the aluminium Denco housing. It is my contention the these bumps are stopping the filter from sealing properly.
On the other hand, the ones I buy (Fleetguard at present) have a flat upper surface with a lot of holes drilled through. On the bottom, they have a series of crescent or moon shaped indents/cuts. I think there is also a differnce in the size/type of hole through the middle. Me and 2 mates spent bloody hours trying to work out why the Patrol wouldn't go properly after I'd put a New Holland filter in.....it would idle, but as soon as i tried to take off it's just die; sucking air.
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Follow Up By: Member - Haldo (Sydney) - Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:40
Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:40
Roachie,
The Ryco had those small bumps where the inner part of the filter is attached to the outer casing. I thought those might have been the problem but I didn't want to be critical for what I thought were my shortcomings.
Thanks for your help.
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Reply By: Vinnie - Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 23:35
Thursday, Dec 23, 2004 at 23:35
Haldo
I have a CAV filter and the original set-up doing the job. You would not be suprised at the condition of the OEM after 10,000k going by the lack of good quality diesel sold in Australia.
With the two hooked up, if the CAV fails you still have the OEM doing the job, especially if out in the red dirt, simply disconnect and redirect lines.
I have had this situation when an object broke the glass housing on my CAV a long way from a place to have a new one available.
Good luck with sorting out the filters.
Vinnie
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