HELP! with Tyre Changes

I would recommend joining a club and being shown everything properly...

Or doing some driver training courses that will show you 'bush mechanics' to get you going in the event of other failures... before you 'hit' the Gibson this season

Our Club had a tyre changing/repairing night at ProComp a while back. Maybe give them a ring and have a chat.

Leroy

Hi Domster

Try www.tyrepliers.com.au

Might give you some sort of a guide

Regards Thommo

Go to your local tyre shop, I'm sure they will only be to happy to give you a demo.

buy a set of tyre plyers
1) mark tyre with chalk that writes on tyres avail from tyre places. Mark v for valve position and a line where the split is (they should be oppisite each other you may also need to mark positions of wheel weights
2) remove the valve
3) use tyre pliers to break bead both sides (this is not an ardous task with splitties and is often unneccasary
4) look oround the split and about 5cm to the left of the split is a slot (5cm to the left with you facing the split and the split closest to you
5)using the flat end of a tyre lever hook it under the split and use it to push down on the side of the split with the slot
6) while exposing the slot put the other lever into the slot using the curved end (have the curve facing the outside of the wheel not the inside
7)release 1st tyre lever and stand on second pulling the split out
8) use other lever under split area to lift side of split
9)holding side of split up with one lever grab lever that was in slot and place it under split and into section of wheel where hub goes
10) kick it around split will come out
11) lift tyre oppisite end of valve then manoevre valve out
12 fix flat (I can go into detail here as well if req)
13)put tube and dust cover back in tyre and lay tre back over rim by inserting valve then lay tyre down over rim
14)lay split on rim and put foot on one side of split forcing it down then stamp around split seating it correctly
15) replace valve and re inflate
IMPORTANT PLACE TYRE UNDER VEHICLE ON PASSENGER SIDE TO INFLATE incase split pos off

But sheesh it makes a fairly simple task sound complicated perhaps see if the local tyre fitter will show you
(IT IS A SIMPLE BUT POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS TASK PROFESIONAL TRAINING IS ADVIZED)

ok - Thanks for raising that one. Do you think putting a couple of web-straps in an "X" around the wheel before inflating the tyre would stop a popping slit-rim from flying? Any other suggestions? ( I won't be taking anything like a cage along with me.) Cheers, Dom.

I have a little book which I purchased from the Melbourne Map Centre, 740 Waverley Rd, Chadstone, 03 9569 5472 a few years ago entitled "Tyre Repair Made Easy"
sub title "A ‘How To’ Guide on Tyre Repairs" published by Tyrepliers Engineering P/L who are on 03 9744 7829 or www.tyrepliers.com.au - no idea if it's still available or if the above contacts details are still valid but it's a great little book and will give you all the info you need.

Mike Harding

mike_harding@fastmail.fm

I know this sounds daft, but if there are any truck drivers who live near you, who own the rig, they will always be fixing punctures (I used to get 2 or 3 a month). Turn up with a couple of coldies and ask if you can learn how it's done. Otherwise go to your nearest tyre dealer. If the tyre dealer looks at you as if your daft, tell them, as you're pulling out of the driveway, that you'll never buy tyres from them.

To lessen the risk of injury when inflating tyre after repair (from split ring bursting off) firstly go around with mallet, hitting split ring as many times as you can, & turn the tyre over so ring is against the ground while inflating. I wouldn't recommend putting it under the car. Trailer maybe, but not the car.

If you have a printer connected, print off this page, go out to your troopie, take off a tyre and practice (step by step), what has been explained by others here. You can take as long as you like, and no-one will laugh at you, cos you'll be in the comfort of your own back yard, not stuck on the side of the road. The reason for marking the tyre with chalk is to help retain some of the ballance. If you put it back together with no regard to where everything was (weights, valve, split ring), the tyre may end up so far out of balance it could be dangerous at speeds above 40klms.
Also, you will need to get a good puncture repair kit.

Cheers,

Muzz

Some people may call "Tyre-plyers" a bead-breaker, but I knew it as a large
tyre lever about 4 feet long with a sliding sleeve over the top that you would use to belt the crap out of truck tyres to break the bead. Some tyres, even small 4x4 tyres, are a bugger to break if the tyre and rim have been together for a couple of years. "Tyre-plyers", from what I've seen, take a lot of the work out of tyre repairs, making it easier to break the bead on split rims, and they also make it much easier to remove a tubeless tyre from the rim, which, usually, is a real pain in the back, legs, arms, fingers etc etc;

Out in the bush, give me split rims anyday !

Peple who say skinnies are no good in the sand amaze me. I've had 2 forby's with them on, and I went everywhere anybody else did, I just had to stop a bit ealier than some to let the tyres down. Once everyone had reduced tyre pressures, no one did any better or worse. Only engine power, or lack of it, seemed to make any difference between one vehicle and the next.

Cheers,

Muzz

Hello Domster,
Whilst at te local Bob Jane outlet I was reading a 4WD Monthly special edition, quite recent publication. Maybe drop by their web site, might have it published.
4WD Monthly
It had full pictorials of tyre changing with both split rims and well based rims. From what I can remember it was quite informative. (Based around the use of TyrePliers products) Not the good old days of a bead chisel and 4lb hammer.
The best way to inflate a split rim safely is attach the hose, face the split ring to the ground. Stand well back, turn air or compressor on.
I've changed more than I'd care to remember in my time and have done all of them this way.
Never had one seperate, but never took the risk either.

Just looked at their website, it was a "Gold Label Edition" magazine.

Geoff.

I've used tyrepliers & they break the bead quite easily but getting the tyre off the rim was a lot harder work (Mind you I wasn't using the 24 foot tyre levers that you have. Thats one hell of a fulcrum you've got to work with). I've heard R&R Beadbreakers do a better job of removing the tyre but this was on standard rims, not splits. (I know, you only meant 2 foot levers but I couldn't resist).

No offence, but by some of the points brought up here that you dont know, you really should find someone to show you.

Split rims can be deadly. Stories around truck drivin when I was doing it, of them going through cabs of trucks...

Do you have all your communication stuff done? Radios? Permits for where your going? Maps? Backup devices? EPIRB maybe?

Where are you at with your planning..?

No offence taken m8. That's why I posted to this forum. I've picked up a lot of great tips from this community ... 'thanks' go out to everyone who took their time to share some of their wisdom. If anyone's up @ Uluru for full-moon over Australia Day, it'll be my pleasure to shout a cold one. - dom :)

Domster
Like many others I love "skinny splits" because they're so easy to change in the bush and go just about anywhere - better in mud than "fats" and not quite as good in soft sand.

As for safety, I always put my rolled up swag over the rim while inflating and sit on it. A tent, tarp or heavy blanket would do the same trick.

A man was killed when he removed the tyre of his wheelbarrow and inflated it at his local garage. It blew apart due to overpressure. The small size of the tyre and rapid inflation rate were contributing factors but all he needed to do was put his lie it down and stand on it while he was inflating. Instead it hit him in the chest.

Mate - there is one pearl of wisdom I havnt shared with you yet that is take your time fixing the flat rough the area up well, spend heaps of time kneading the patch on and thouroughly check the tyre for the offending stake. also thoroughly check to see if it is the only one. there is one thing worse than fixing a flat and that is fixing it twice. Also prevent flats by inspecting tyres for stakes that may work their way in. remove them with a small screwdriver - enjoy