Cruise Control for a 80 Series

Submitted: Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 18:55
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Hi all - happy new year and all of that festive gumf.

I have done a search of the archives but it didn't help.

I have a '91 80 Series GXL Diesel with an aftermarket turbo fitted and I am looking at fitting a cruise control.

My budget doesn't stretch as far as the Autron Auscruise so I am looking for something a little bit cheaper. I have heard of the AP 50 but I can not find any info on it. Any advice on type, costs, good/bad points and where they are sold - I live in Perth, would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks a lot - Karl
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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 19:03

Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 19:03
Karl,
I had the AP50 for about 9 years and it never missed a beat. I just bought another one for my Triton and it works fine. At under $200 they are good value and IMO very reliable.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 19:24

Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 19:24
I've got an aftermarket electronic job that the previous owner fitted and it's just amazing, better than the factory cruise in the missus BA Falcon Work Car.
But I've only heard good things about thr AP50's, apparantly you can get them from Auto 1, KMart etc etc.
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Reply By: SteveL - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 21:26

Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 21:26
Does the AP 50 work on diesels? Some of them require vacuum so won't work on diesels.
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Follow Up By: SteveL - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 21:54

Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 21:54
Sorry should have read this : archive
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Reply By: Bros - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 21:39

Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 21:39
Karl,
Got an AP50 fitted to my 85 2H diesel and works good. Only problem i have had was with losing the magnet. Probably my fault for not putting on securely. Mine drops out at about 10% below the set speed when going up hills. (manual) Don't know what happens on an Automatic. Paid $136 for it and $50 to fit.
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Reply By: itisi - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 21:39

Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 21:39
Karl

I had one of the earlier models of AP50's for around 11/12 years. It was originally fitted to an 80 SWB Patrol (3.3 Diesel) then EA falcon and then a 93 Surf and performed absolutely A1.

It finally developed a fault and rather than try and find the prob, I went and bought another one. At less than $200 from K-mart etc (even less on special) it wasn't worth the hassle of fault finding. As it turned out it was only a couple of loose wires anyway but the newer model is smaller and more efficient and has a beter control panel which fitted and suited the Surf even better than the 1st model. There are two types of control panels (AP50/60).

They also come complete with mobs of fittings for just about every vehicle, a manual and an instruction video.

My son borrowed the "old patrol" many years ago and was so impressed with the c/c he got one for his HQ V8 Kingswood and has since bought a GU S11 Patrol 4.2TD and has fitted an AP50/60 to that vehicle.

Are we happy with the units??? You betcha.........

Rod
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Follow Up By: itisi - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 00:11

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 00:11
Forgot to mention, diesels have a vacuum pump somewhere in them. Sometimes on the back of the alternator, direct drive from the engine or (Surf) back of steering pump. The vacuum is required to operate your vac assisted brakes.

By placing a T piece in the line (mine is next to the brake booster) and a restrictor (supplied with kit) it shouldn't affect your brake action. It hasn't effected any the 4 vehicles I've used them on.

If using the c/c on a manual, there is a thread on fitting a switch behind the clutch pedal to de-activate the cruiser............ Unfortunately I just can't locate the damn thing at the moment.

The older model AP50 used 2 magnets but the later ones use only one. I've never had any problems with the magnets getting dislocated or knocked off the drive shaft.

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Reply By: Stew53 - Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 22:35

Thursday, Jan 06, 2005 at 22:35
I installed an AP50 on my '90 model after market turbo 80 series back in 91 the kit came with a large selection of brackets and hose adapters and a basic set of instructions and a short video to make it easy to install. the 1HZ diesel has a vacuum pump on the front timing cover, the kit had a plastic vacuum adapter that was either 1/2" or 5/8" that can be spliced into the vacuum pipe that leads to the brake booster from the Vac pump with a 1/4" pipe from the tee to the C/C actuator. To keep the bracket short for the pick-up for the driveline magnets I installed the magnets on the front driveline (GXL constant 4wd) and hung the bracket from the front floor, just about under your right foot. in time the driveline magnets did slip so a few dabs of silatic on the sides of the magnets and the tie wire solved that problem.
There is a kit that can be bought to adapt to the clutch so that it cuts out the C/C when changing gears, I did not fit the kit and in the twelve years I had the car only slipped up a couple of times and tried to change gears with the CC engaged, no dramas though as the device is designed to cut out if the engine revs 10% above or below the set revs. In the 200K the CC was on the car it worked well, well worth the the $180 that I paid for it.
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Reply By: Uppy - Member - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 00:32

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 00:32
Hi Karl , weve got a AP60 in the school bus ,which is great .I dont know what the diff is between the 60-50 is mate but it works great in the bus.Can you give me a ring regarding our next outing,or are you having to go overseas in the light of things that have happened
kind regards uppys
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Reply By: Member - Karl - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:57

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:57
Thanks to all - I will deffantly look at the AP 50/60. Geting the truck serviced in 2500 km time and will get it done then.

Karl
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Follow Up By: SteveL - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 21:03

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 21:03
I picked up an AP50 from Kmart today for $177.00.It does not come with
the clutch switch which has to be bought separately.This switch is only a reed (magnetic) switch which you can buy at Dick Smith for $6.00.
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Follow Up By: itisi - Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 02:34

Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 02:34
The son also fitted a reed switch to the clutch (GU Patrol) and says it is a bit slower to operate than a normal spring-loaded type switch but he hasn't over-revved the engine so is happy with the setup.
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Reply By: Member - The Coenens (WA) - Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 19:05

Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 19:05
Hi
We had one fitted to our 80 series GXL trubo diesel automatic a couple of years ago and it is marvelous.
Sorry cant supply much info but we had it fitted by Bunbury Toyota in Bunbury. It is an aftermarket brand though. We paid around $700. Suggest you ring Bunbury Toyota for some info. It was a pressy for the hubby at the time. We've done a couple of good long trips since then and given it a good try out.
Good luck.
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