Jackaroo Running Costs Advice Please

Submitted: Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 08:52
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I am looking for a Jackaroo at the moment and I have been looking at Diesels but after looking at the government auctions I am tempted to look at a petrol. $19K - $23K for a 2002 SE with 65,0000K and BBar winch and snorkel seems pretty good value. I am wanting to know how much it generally cost to service a Diesel and a petrol Jackaroo and also the type of fuel economy that I could expect in a petrol vehicle considering the vehicle would do about 75% city driving and the rest Highway with the odd off road trip.

I would appreciate for any advice you can give
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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:07

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:07
G'day Timbo
I have a 2002 SE widetrack Jackaroo, 60,000km. Servicing cost me no more than $250 every 10,000kms. I believe the 100,000km service to be around $1500, but other on this forum will be able to be more precise. I generally get about 14L/100kms. I was just up in the hight country last weekend and did 16.4L/100km. Sounds like the one you are looking at is a good buy. They have plenty of get up and go. Good Luck

Crazie
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Follow Up By: The Don - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 15:34

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 15:34
Interesting to read your consumption figures, also the follow on servicing prices. My 1999 3litre turbo Jack averages 11.5 l 100 and goes up to 12.5 with the campertrailer on the back, these figures are taken over 4 years. So it would appear that overall running costs would not be much different, diesels are better though!?? Cheers, Don.
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Reply By: timbo73 - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:14

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:14
I just called my local holden dealer (worst case pricing senario I figure) These are the servicing prices that they quoted me.

Service Petrol Diesel
60,000 350 409
70,000 314 414
80,000 562 836
90,000 232 332
100,000 782 391
110,000 232 485
120,000 424 506
130,000 232 332
Total 3128 3705

Kind of makes you think....
The 14L l/100k is that city driving or a mixture of city and highway???
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:32

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:32
A bit of a combo city/ highway, but normally just to and from work. I would steer away from the holden dealer and find a good 4WD service centre, that is just my opinion from owning my Jack from new. Cheers Crazie
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Follow Up By: Member - Banjo (SA) - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:47

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:47
Never, I say "never" believe a dealer's quoted figure for a service ( or my ex large / prominent dealer, that is). Sophisticated liars, the lot of them.
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Reply By: Savvas - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:42

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:42
Hi timbo,

What Crazie quotes in costs is pretty well spot on for me too.

Dealer servicing during the first 70000 ranged from $160 to $700. I now use a 4WD specialist for the more involved maintenance, but do a lot of it myself including grease and oil and some other stuff.

As you are buying at govt auctions, you are not tied to dealers by warranties, etc.

Let us know whereabouts you are located. Someone here might be able to pont you to a good mechanic.
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Reply By: timbo73 - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:48

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:48
Thanks for all your help guys...
I am in Point Cook Vic so I have been looking at Fowles they appear to have a heap of ex NRE vehicles that have come though.. The vehicle is going to be used mainly for my wife and expected baby to drive around in as our main family car and for me to to go out and play in.

Any advice on a good Jack mechanic would be most appreciated
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Follow Up By: Member - Bradley- Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 23:02

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 23:02
Hey Timbo, i was going to warn you about the jacks with the works fitted at the auctions, they are either ex police or ex nre, neither of which particularly care for them, check the books in the office first. Usually the jacks without winch etc. have had an easy time. Example - saw a jack when i was at holden that the coppers had abused that hard it had bent the chassis, only 10,000 on the clock, going back to police workshops to remove goodies and straight to the auctions.

Yes the nre / police rigs have all the good stuff, cargo barriers, bar winch , long range tanks etc etc, but just be carefull. Mine was ex plantations dept, in top nick. CFA jacks are usually in good nick but stink of smoke.

Good luck, Brad
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Reply By: Rick Blaine - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 11:26

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 11:26
I have found a mechanic who does a goos job on my 2002 Equipe T/D... but I buy the parts including the oils... last service 60,000 cost $88 but quoted $720 from dealer....
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:28

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:28
4wd's serviced cop a "sucker" surcharge because they are a 4wd. Diesel 4wd's cop a "BIG SUCKER" surcharge by dealers.
Sure there are some slightly higher costs on items like oil and air filters and the 4bies generally take a fair bit more oil than your std road car but it's all CRAP IMO.
Give the dealer the finger and do it your self. Find a good mechanic or 4wd specialist for major things.
I service my Surf every 5000k's. Cost me about $30-40 for the oil and about $20 for a filter RRP. I have a $30 greese gun that I grease all the niples with (easy to do yourself even with a bear in one hand LOL)
Only way to go IMO. I blow out the air filter with my $99 GMC air compressor, although now I have ordered my UNI filter I will just clean it out re-oil and put it back in.
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Reply By: Member - Sparkie (QLD) - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 15:22

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 15:22
I take my Jack(V6 3.2L petrol) to a local mechanic and have had no problems with the work done on the car. I am lucky that the actual mechanic is a 4WD owner who is into 4WD's . I change my own oil and filters and all the basic stuff.

My vehicle is 13 years old and have 238000k on the clock and still managed to get 14L/100K with the air con going all the way. Without the aircon I dropped back to 13L/100K. These figures are based on blacktop cruising at 100k/h. Around town I get about 16L/100K as I mostly do extremely short trips around town which ruins economy fast. Fuel economy isn't the greatest but if you want to save on fuel you would not buy a 4WD in the first place. The Jackaroo is a very comfortable vehicle to drive and I am very happy with my Jack.

Sparkie(IE not Y) ;-)
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Reply By: noddy - Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 18:05

Friday, Jan 07, 2005 at 18:05
Hi,

I dont have a Jack, I do have a Rodeo though. 2002 3.0TD Auto.
My previous vehicle was a 3.2 Petrol V6 Rodeo.
Fuel consumption for the v6 was around 15-16 LT per 100km, diesel is around 11.
I'm a member of the Jackaroo Club of Vic.

I wouldn't have anything but a diesel now, especially if you are going to go outback touring.

Only thing to be careful of with the diesel is to make sure that the injector seals have been replaced.
They were a bit dodgy initially and there was a dealer ix for it, most should have been done, but it's worth checking, it will stop you in your tracks if they go.

Also make sure you run the correct oil, I don't know the technicalities of it but the caterpillar injection system works using oil pressure, if you change the oil to the wrong type, you will have problems with fuel delivery.

That said, I think they are a great little truck.

cheers,

Dale
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Reply By: timbo73 - Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 08:19

Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 08:19
I went and had a look at a Montery yesterday it was a 2000 Model with 63K on the clock that I they were talking $25K on the road. The thing that interests me with this car is that as my wife will be driving it most of the time with a baby on board it being auto with ABS and the TOD system could be handy when the roads are slipery. Also the fact that I would have to add hardly anything to it ar far a cruise etc is concerned... I was looking a Diesel only but concidering the extra cost of diesel fuel and servicing costs it almost seems to bring them back to a level playing field and then it is up to personal preference as far as what sort of engine charactistics you want..
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 08:44

Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 08:44
Timbo ... The 2000 Monterey is what I have, but with the V6.

The TOD is absolute gold in slippery on road conditions. Only drawback is that there is no locked up 4H range standard. However, there is a simple elctronics mod you can make if you are handy with a soldering iron that can provide you with a locked 4H range as well as the TOD and 4L.

If you take the car for a test drive, switch on the 4WD auto button. When accelerating hard on a dry surface, you should get the 2nd row of lights on the front wheel indicators flickering a bit. That would show it's operational.

With 4WD auto on, and while decelarting to a stand still, there maybe a little whining. That's ok. However, if it's loud that indicates that the tyres aren't evenly worn. All tyres have to be within about 3mm of each other. If you are getting tyres done, then all 4 need to be done at the same time and rotated religiously.

Also, if the TOD lights just flash, either with or without the check light, then the system is faulty and needs to be looked at.

Happy hunting.
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 08:46

Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 08:46
Click here for the 4H mod on TOD.
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Reply By: timbo73 - Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 09:11

Sunday, Jan 09, 2005 at 09:11
Savass,
Thanks for the info. I have just been reading your posting re economy. The Jack I was looking at was a V6 as well for the calcualtions I have been doing I have been estimating
City Highway Average
16.100 11.200 12.800
These were from the NRMA road test articles on the V6 Jack. They appear to be reasonably realastic from what I have read here. The Moterey is starting to look like a good thing... especially at the price... I just have to see if they will add a set of side steps for the price....
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