How does one know when the clutch is buggered?

Submitted: Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 15:02
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Is there any way to confirm that the clutch in my 80 petrol cruiser is on the way out? Going up a steep low range climb last week and I'm sure I could smell clutch at the top. Before I spend the $ on a fix I'd like to be sure it is stuffed. Also what sort of mileage have other 80 series owners got out of their clutches?
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Reply By: banjodog - Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 15:19

Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 15:19
For a simple test, although it will / may use up what’s left, is to:

1. apply the handbrake firmly
2. select high range only
3. select 3rd gear
4. do the toe and heel trick – toe on the foot brake and the heel on the accelerator
5. rev it and then let out the clutch
6. if it keeps revving with the clutch all the way out – Good night Irene on the clutch
7. if it stalls with the moderate revs applied there is some limited life yet
8. if you’re really concerned – just replace it with a heavy duty one. Also a good time the machine the flywheel and replace the rear main seal.

PS: not to be used as a weekly test, only if you think there's a problem or when buying a vehicle.
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Reply By: Stuart - Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 18:39

Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 18:39
Having clutch issues with my 80 series, it shutters when fully loaded. Get a pro to check it out, and then get a second and third opinion, l was told by one mob it would not last my next trip, but fortunatly l have a mate who is a toyota mechanic and he took it for a drive and said l should get at least 50000k's out of it.
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Reply By: 80scruiser - Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 21:18

Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 21:18
I got 259 000 k out of mine and it wasn't worn out, only the dampers gone causing extremely loud rattling. Put an after market Daiken brand in and noise got worse. Replaced it with a genuine toyota one and presto no dramas.
Mine is a diesel though.
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Follow Up By: 80scruiser - Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 21:19

Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 21:19
Forgot to mention as already said. Definetely machine flywheel. for 40 bucks its cheap insurance or at bare minimum put a straight edge across the surfac as they do wear on a taper and will cause clutch shudder with a new plate fitted.
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Reply By: locallaw - Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 21:52

Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 21:52
Gidday,While you are under the 4by check all your engine mounts.Not just look but get a wrecking bar and lever the mounts apart.You will soon see a broken mount and these can also cause a shudder in the drive line.
Seeya Locallaw
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 22:56

Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 22:56
When your car fails to move forward with engine running and car in gear, she is fubar...
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 23:28

Monday, Jan 10, 2005 at 23:28
Good one Truxta!
I wouldnt do any of these...if it is going to slip, it will do it in 5th up a big hill.
You should get heaps of warning with the clutch, and it shouldnt have slipped in low range...more probable the oil come out the power steer reservoir and onto the exhaust...
Andrew
ps if u go into toyota, they will sell you a t/d clutch as a 1fz replacement...as they are thesame size, but heavier on the foot....Apparently Toyota get their clutches fropm Daykin. (and make toyotas out of them)
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 08:57

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 08:57
I think you are right about Daikin making the clutch for Yotas - they also make them for Izusu, Nissan etc etc etc. Exedy it the biggest clutch maker in Japan and Daikin (now Exedy Aust) is a susidiary of that company.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:03

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:03
I think you are right about Daikin making the clutch for Yotas - according to the local clutch and brake specialist I spoke to about my Nissan last weekend they also make them for Izusu, Nissan etc etc etc. Exedy it the biggest clutch maker in Japan and Daikin (now Exedy Aust) is a susidiary of that company. According to this bloke PBR run a poor second to Exedy in terms of quality etc. Also Exedy are the only ones who manufacture a HD clutch for the patrol - don't know about the others.
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 (Queanbeyan - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:03

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:03
ooooooooooooooooooooooops now how did that happen?
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Follow Up By: Moose - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:48

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 14:48
Thanks Andrew - obviously it's a similar smell? There was a heap of PS fluid on the outside of the reservior so hopefully that will be it. I didn't notice anything untoward in 5th on way home so all may be well after all.
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Reply By: Mick - Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:11

Tuesday, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:11
I got 270,000 from a Pajero years ago. The only warning I got was failure (slipping). On the subject of suppliers of parts - that happens with all manufacturers. Australian made Toyotas have parts made by suppliers from all over the place and they could almost more accurately be called vehicle assemblers. The main thing they make here is bodies and engines.This is a good thing as there is work spread all over the country. The suppliers however have to make the product to Toyota specifications which are not necessarily the same as the units they produce under their own name. Hence a Daykin (spelling??) is not necessarily the same quality as one that comes out of the factory with the name of a vehicle manufacturer on it and the assurance of "genuine" part.
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