Tyre man spinning me a yarn re Bridgestone D694s

Submitted: Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 09:18
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Hi all

Went looking for prices for tyres yesterday, tyre man told me customer had a 2002 prado with Bridgestone D694s 245/70R16s, had done 20000 kms simpson x 2 and gibb River rd, no flats and only lost 2mms of tread. Anyone believe him?

Are there any up to date stories on the D694? I can get them for $200 each, about $70 less than BFGoodrich or Coopers, for 5 tyres that's $350 saving.

D-JAck
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Reply By: cokeaddict - Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 09:25

Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 09:25
Did the customer take the tyre bloke alone on the trip? Was he actually there ?
Second hand news maybe. I believe its the luck of the draw as far as flat tyres go on any trip. Nothing at all to do with what tyre you have on.
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Follow Up By: vuduguru - Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 10:43

Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 10:43
Except when your comparing Grad Treks to Coopers or BFG et all. GT's 3 stakings in 30k, Coopers 0 in 30k. I knew that was what you meant..yes?

Shane
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 10:17

Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 10:17
Very interested to get the low down on the 694's myself. Lots of conflicting opinions. Certainly cheaper.
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Reply By: hoyks - Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 11:35

Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 11:35
I have a pair of 694's on the front as replacements for the 2 x 693's that I holed the side walls on just on a trip up through Nowendoc.

I had managed to go 7 years with out a flat and got 2 in a weekend, so it must have been bad karma. I punched a rock through one of the 693's on Thursday, but it was repairable, so I wouldn't be getting any more of those as I haven't had a lot of luck with them.

Anyway the 694's are wearing quite well as I have done 25 000k since fitting. Lost a little more than 2mm though. I haven't punctured one either, but all my flats lately have been on the back wheels.
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Reply By: GO_OFFROAD - Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 12:27

Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 12:27
That story doesnt sound to bad, as my MTRs arent far off that sort of wear, with no punctures either, and they have done 5 high country trips, inc 2 snow trips as wella s the Simspon etc, and I doubt the bridgies have had the abuse the MTRs have taken in that time on my truck though, like grooves in the sidewall where the weights are mounted to the rim from so much flexing at low pressures and lots of high speed [130kph +] gravel work at 25-28 psi loaded, as well of lots of 3-8 psi [fitted with 2ndairs] snow driving and wet high country work.

I have never shopped for a tyre on price, given they are the main item keeping the car on the road, in all conditions.
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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 13:11

Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 13:11
GO OFFROAD

Not exactly going to make my decision on price, agree with what you say, but if I'm going to get same amount of kiliometres from the D694s as Wrantler ATs and not much difference in tread pattern/durablility/puncture susceptablilty the may as well go the D694s and save $. They do have a good reputation for handling too. Won't be doing all that much off road stuff, just sand work and dirt roads like old ghan line and light rock work.

thanks for your info
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Follow Up By: GO_OFFROAD - Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 13:19

Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 13:19
D jack, the good yr At is as tough as the MTR, though i must say the MTR is the best sand tyre I have used, digs enough to go forward, but not down.

Proof of this can be seen on a trip report of the simpson trip i did recently, where we had not 1 of the 100's on the trip, inc the 4.5 petrol with x terrains go up the hard side of big red, but a couple of 120's and a 79 tray managed to, and the MTRs allowed us to drive up to the area where the wind blown sand started half way up, stop, and then standing start, go up and over.

We had one guy on the trip who had been there 15 times,a nd a guy who ran tours on the trip, who mentioned he had been there 6 times, and it was the first time it was hard enough his 100 couldnt even get over the chicken track on the hard side.

the vids are here

http://www.lcool.org/trips/double_simpson_2004/trip/day1/simpson_1.html

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Reply By: sean - Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 12:52

Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 12:52
I think that sounds about right.

I use bridgestone 265/75/16 693 Light Truck becuase they do give very low wear on dirt and gravel, expecially compared to BFG. And the 694 are supposed to be better but I am not sure if they are now available in sizes I need.

As for flats, I have found the bridgestone definately more prone to both puncture and spiking but I carry 2 spares so never been a real issue.

Cant have it all.

Sean
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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 13:16

Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 13:16
Sean,

Was told the Ligh Truck Tyres are more expensive, less susceptablity to punctures and better wear, but have a lower speed rating but higher load rating. I'm not keen on LTs because of the ride/handling factor (don't get off road heaps - just fishing mainly therefore beach/sand/rocks/dirt to get there). Lost my balls after the disasterous border track trip when clutch and alternater went! Will stick with the higher speed rating.

Thanks for your reply
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Reply By: David Au - Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 13:45

Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 13:45
I have only just changed from Bridgestone D694's at 50,000km without any problems, to a set of Kumoho KL41 at $135.00 each. Why did I choose the Kumoho well the price difference and past experience with Kumoho tyres on work vehicles which has been good. I have only had them just over a week but done a couple thousand k's and more than happy with then. Went about 50k on not great gravel road and no complaints.
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Reply By: Noosa Bushtrackers - Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 13:47

Sunday, Jan 16, 2005 at 13:47
We put new 693 pattern 285's on our F250 towing a caravan, before leaving on our trip around the block last year, and the rear tyres were about 1/2 worn while the front are 1/4 to 1/3 worn after 20,000km. Several thousand was on gravel roads. Had 2 puntures on BFG tyres on caravan and non on F250 but as it was said before is it just the luck of the draw really. The caravan BFG's have only had 4 punctures in 90,000 ks.
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