Result :Non Distructive testing of chassis
Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 25, 2005 at 10:13
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paul v
Well what a pile of cammel dung the so called x raying of the weld turned out to be..
Buggar me we can't get the gear into the area re-welded..so they did a magnetic crack
test.I suspect that this was also dodgy as the paint that had been applied to the newly welded area was not removed.. limiting the effectiveness of the process.
The specialist agreed that the weld was not all that flash but was sufficient, and that the factory repair process was probably not designed for extent or degree of the failure that had taken place.
The outcome..No certifier it seems is happy to catigorically say that it will prove to be a long term solution..I am now like a patient afflicted by cancer. Every six months for the next thee years the vehicle must undergo a visual inspection to ensure that there is no further cracking...
Will GM be able to provide me with the re certification that they promised and that is legally required..I think not..
Where do you go from here..? roll over, drive it, and pray...
Reply By: Nudenut - Tuesday, Jan 25, 2005 at 10:37
Tuesday, Jan 25, 2005 at 10:37
sort of reminds me of before i got a real 4wd... a pinging Mazada hero 4wd..
Mazada accepted the thing pinged but would not fix...said they would warrant car for life while I was owner...on dyno power dropped away considerably...
Court action was unlikely to get satisfaction as they had given lifetime warranty on engine....
Reckon you'll have to accept or do what I did get rid of it!
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Wednesday, Jan 26, 2005 at 01:36
Wednesday, Jan 26, 2005 at 01:36
Simple, demand they strip it back down and x-ray it properly, as said if painted a mag particle or flux
test wont be accurate, and you cant do a flouro penetrant
test either. If no engineer will certify it then they havent done the job, get the dept of transport etc. involved. They probably didnt use a proper repairer either by the sound of it. If they promised it, they must deliver.
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Follow Up By: paul v - Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 10:18
Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 10:18
The principle of the X-raying is the same as when you go to the dentist you still have to get a film holder behind the area you wish to zap..All a bit difficult when there is a power steering unit bolted where you want to put the film and also the fact that it is a box section..
I fought the bastards at GM over this very issue before they did the job knowing full
well that the correct option was to replace the chassis..Isn't it strange how they again now won't acknowledge my emails.
I'm SORELY tempted to publish the e-mail addresses of everyone from their CEO to lowly sales engineer so you guys can send them a few tips on customer service.
Cheers Paul V.
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 16:50
Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 16:50
Yeah thats why i reckon make them strip it down for access and get the x-rays done properly, you can get good resolution with box sections etc, just need the right angle and strength etc. you should see some of the gear we used to have at ansett, x-rays, ultrasonic, mag particle, flux, flouro penetrant, thermo cameras (for composites) if there was a crack we could find it !!
If you've got the energy left push the pricks to do the job properly as should have been done in the first place, tell them they will save on the 6 monthly strip down and inspections.
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