New 4WD " more info "

Submitted: Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 19:59
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Thanks for the quick replys , its looks like I need to be more specific .

Looking at spending 23-25k ( about 10k changeover for the Io ) I have seen a number of Pajeros out there and they seem " Cheap " compared to other 4wds of the same year etc . We have sought of narrowed it down to the Prado 3.4 Petrol or the Gu Patrol 4.5 Petrol ( Petrol being a good 6-7 grand less than TD ) . Was mainly trying to find out of any problems I should look out for .

Cheers Kris
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Reply By: Member - Russell B (SA) - Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 20:12

Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 20:12
Don't wrire off the pajeros, look at the statistics of what your looking for, KW, NM and fuel economy, diesel or petrol, Mitsubishi got some good deals at moment cause of the Head Office troubles.

Theres nuffin wrong with the vehicle and some real good prices out there at the moment.

New 2004 manual GLS for $39k.


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Reply By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 20:13

Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 20:13
I would throw into that Jackaroo and 80 series. The gu and 80 and prado will be the most expensive so you will get higher ks for that price range. gu and 80 are thirsty beasts and can easily use upwards of 20l per 100k and that is before taking it off the high way prado and jackaroo i would expect to use between 16 and 18l per hundred and I would be looking at turbo diesal in both of these coz they are good motors with enough grunt. 80 series turbo diesal are still quite expensive and could be in a bit average cond for that price range. N/a diesal 80 might be a bit slow for you and impractical if it spends most of its time in the burbs
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Follow Up By: Kristos - Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 20:40

Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 20:40
Davoe , I have mixed reports about the Jakaroo , I was keen being a Holden man , but I have been told to steer clear due to part availability and price . Have I got the wrong info ??

Cheers k
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Follow Up By: Outbacktourer - Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 08:30

Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 08:30
You have got the wrong info. IMHO 3.5 Petrol Auto is the best second hand buy in this class. Do not under any circumstances take it to a Holden dealer for service.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 09:54

Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 09:54
My sister and broyher in law had a td jack - vey happy with it
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Reply By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 22:18

Thursday, Jan 27, 2005 at 22:18
You can pick up a second hand Terracan for that sort of money with two years manufacturers warranty still on it.

Mine has served me well and is exceptional value.

Give it some consideration.


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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 00:21

Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 00:21
Diesels are cheaper to run in the long run...

Drive as many trucks as you can, that will eliminate numerous from the list... then come back with the few you have then.
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Reply By: MrBitchi - Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 09:22

Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 09:22
Hi Kristos,
Pre 2000 model Pajeros have a full chassis, coil sprung live axle rear and torsion bar independent front suspension.
Post 2000 (NM, NP) have a monocoque chassis, coil sprung independent rear and Macpherson strut independent front suspension.
The newer models are, IMO, a more capable off roader and a much better on road vehicle than the previous models.
The only way you'll get better wheel articulation (which translates directly to off road ability) is with a live front axle ie a Nissan Patrol or 80 series Cruiser etc.
A Pajero is more than capable of keeping up with, or leaving behind, any other 4WD except maybe in extreme rock hopping terrain.

Be wary of the larger 4WD's with petrol engines, they really chew the juice. You'll get much better economy from deisel. However if you want performance (power) a petrol will generally give you more grunt off the shelf.
You can get performance from deisels, it just usually costs more (turbochargers, Unichips etc)

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Reply By: Member - bushfix - Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 10:24

Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 10:24
G'day Kristos,

I had about the same dollars as you when looking.
I was choosing between Jackaroo and Prado but was eventually sold on the Prado (96 GXL) as it had 8 seats (yeah knees up in the back, but I have four kids) 159L fuel in two tanks, and I aim on having it for a few years yet. I believe GMH are obliged to supply parts for Jacks until 2010, might be wrong, a Jack owner might help here. I cannot speak of any issues with the 4.5 Patrol except as Davoe pointed out, it will be thirstier than a Prado or Jack.
I kicked it around for a long time and could find no good argument not to go for the 3.4 V6 Prado. There were heaps to choose from and many had not been off road I believe. Diesels were hard to come by and at a higher price but after consideration for our use and listening to others' experience I believed the petrol to work out cheaper and more suited for us in the long run. It is also our only vehicle and we are very pleased with the choice. It's the wife's car during the week (I'm on the train) but it gets good time off road and is very capable and comfortable.
No inherent probs with the V6 that spring to mind, you should be able to grab one for under $25k with low klms, check the servicing history etc.

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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 13:14

Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 13:14
so thats which way you went, should be good for years. I think I suggested the jacks are good value for money but for out and out quality year in and out not much goes past a Toyota
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Reply By: D-Jack - Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 19:43

Friday, Jan 28, 2005 at 19:43
TD Jackaroo 12 l/100 kms to 15 l/100kms (when towing camper trailer or off-road). More usable power than Patrol TD and much more than Prado TD.

There everyone - a positive reply to a potential Jack owner!
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