Any rumors for future Nissan 3L or 4.2 TD

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Looking to get a 3L TD or 4.2TD Patrol

I've read about 3LTD having its far share of problems in the past but seems to be settling down (agree or disagree?)

4.2TD has a proven record but is it getting long in the tooth? , does anyone forsee or heard if Nissan are planning to upgrage the 4.2 TD to a more modern motor like its sibling the 3L to get an increase in its performance?

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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 00:10

Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 00:10
Hi Paul,

There are a lot of rumours about new engines for the Nissan, but nothing concrete. One thing for sure, the 4.2TD is on its last legs, not because it isn't a good engine, but because new emission regs are about to kill it. Australia is the only place to still get the ageing 4.2TD as far as I know.

The series II 3.0TD did have its share of problems originally, but I reckon they are pretty sorted now in series III guise, but I am biased as I have one!!!

There are rumours of a 4.5TD (a 3.0TD + 2 more cylinders) but I haven't heard anything about it for a while now. But its expected that the replacement 4.2TD will now arrive in the new 2006 model GU (released late 2005). But then, the 2005 Gu was expected to have the replacement 4.2TD so who knows??? Just hope Nissan stick with the live axle and not go down the IFS path.


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Reply By: Member - Chris M (QLD) - Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 08:01

Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 08:01

Nissan won't be sticking with the live axle etc, it will have to go IFS due to some silly motoring standard, and the 4.2 TDI is apparently an environmental disaster, albiet a great motor. If I had the cash, I'd love to buy a TDI 4.2 motor and keep it until this one about 20 years!


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Reply By: Leroy - Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 09:12

Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 09:12
My local dealer seemed to think that the 4.2td will be discontinued around the middle of this year due to not meeting emissions. He said he hadn't heard of a replacement for it but said that the 3.0ltd may be the only diesel motor available across the board.

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 10:24

Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 10:24
There have been more rumours about V8 Replacement, or a 4.8 Diesel for 3 years...

Dont hold your breath is the latest word.

Im with Chris, buy a few 4.2Tdi's and throw them in the shed.. That should be about 700,000-900,000kms each, that will see me out.
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Reply By: Member - Hugh (WA) - Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 13:08

Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 13:08
Hi Guys,

I was working with Nissan powertrain engineers (in Yokohama) on a project ~ 12 months ago. I was talking to a Japanese counterpart who was project manager for the 2.8L TD and very senior engine guy in the Nissan org. At the time he stated that there were no plans for a larger diesel and that 3L was to be the mainstay for SUV application. Now plans have a way of changing, and he may also have had the shutters up, but didn't look too good for a 6cyl common rail TD coming out of the Nissan stable.

A lot of discussion in the forum regarding a V8 TD for US SUV market, however I can't see that happening due to the market aversion to diesel in the US. Unfortunately an engine won't be developed soley for the Oz market, hence we'll get whatever is in serial production for global market - this being the 3L from Europe.

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Follow Up By: Leroy - Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 14:14

Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 14:14
Hmmm almost makes what my local dealer said almost true about the 3.0l being the only diesel available shortly!!

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Reply By: Kumanara (SA) - Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 15:57

Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 15:57
Recently I purchased a 4.2 Patrol. I did research before this and my decision to purchase the 4.2 rather than the 3 litre was based on my use of the vehicle. I personally believe that the 3 litre is too small for a big vehicle like the patrol. The 4.2 litre motor is bullet proof. It has been around for years and its reliability is proven.

The Nissan Patrol is a genuine 4WD not a sports car. The 4.2 has ample power.

I have heard rumours about a 4.5 litre motor based on the 3 litre. The extra two cylinders and increase in size would make it an ideal motor for the Patrol.

I have also heard another rumour that Nissan intends to keep the 4.2 litre and put a new head on it to enable direct injection, etc.

It will be interesting to see what Nissan does.
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 19:23

Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 19:23
The latest 4.2intercooled unit was rumoured to be a 4.2/4.5 TDI direct injected unit to rival the Tojo's reputation. Sadly Nissan stuck a couple of XW-XB Falcon boot springs across the top of the engine and propped an intercooler on them and left about 11million Australians disappointed. I am hanging onto my 3L until the fabled 4.5 comes out, if it clags I'll mooch one of Trucksters spare 4.2's from his shed.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 22:51

Tuesday, Feb 01, 2005 at 22:51
you will own that 3.0 till the end of time then baz, the 4.5 diesel wont happen.
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