So, what do YOU guys take...
Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:10
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Lone Wolf
... as far as 4 x 4 spares when going away?
Read all the books...
Read all the Magazines...
Read all the Forums...
So... aside from the toolbox, and tyre changing stuff, what in the way of SPARES, ODDS & SODS are you guys carrying?
The reason I ask, is because, the days of spare distributor caps is over, as
well as spark plugs for most.
In 30 years of driving, I have NEVER done a fan belt...... ever.
Radiator hoses? I have never blown one of these either.
What sort of spares & stuff is nowadays a realistic thing?
Let's for a minute pretend we're going to do...... say ........ the CSR. Hard core stuff, so, aside from fuel, tyres & water........ what else?, and why.
Knock yourselves out, and share with us!
Wolfie
Reply By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:22
Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:22
well for starters I agree with you have had a few breakdowns but nothing you could conciece carrying spares for. I know a guy who broke a rear spring on his hilux so was talking about carrying spare springs probably broke a spring on his next trip because of all the weight and congratulated himself on being prepared. I carry hoses, fuel line, belts , rad stop leak, aqua
putty, bolts screws etc elec cable wire zip ties (last 2 are most important) some people carry water pumps and shockers
well I have done a few shockers but its not like you cant get them
home and a water pump - just drop your water in the radiator to just above the fins and empty the overflow - hey presto no more leaks!. I lost an aircon belt off of a work ute coz it was pulled off by a stray stick during xtreme bushbashing.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:35
Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:35
" just drop your water in the radiator to just above the fins and empty the overflow - hey presto no more leaks!"
Can you explain this to be?
Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:46
Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:46
yep shure it only means you are running about 1l less in your radiator and will make no difference to cooling. If you leave water in your overflow it will suck it in as it cools and fill the radiator right up to
the neck . by leaving some headspace it relieves some of the pressure in the radiator (air compresses water doesnt) so it gives the seal in your water pump a break. If anyone disagrees with me I did it on the start of a 14k trip and had no more leaks until I Forgot about it 3 months later and changed the coolant topping it right up and it leaked again
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 19:39
Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 19:39
Might be ok for you blokes with 2h's, if
mine is lacking even the slightest amount of coolant/pressure on a hot day-----UUP SHE GOES.
My little japanese radiator cooling a diesel bolted to a turbo and automatic gearbox in a crammed bonnet needs all the help it can get! :-(
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Reply By: Member - Stillthinkinaboutit - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:29
Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:29
I carry as spares for my 4.5L Petrol GU Patrol an air filter, oil filter, fuel filter, top radiator hose, bottom radiator hose, a universal fit heater hose with wire coils, pair of fan belts, steering pump belt, air con belt, radiator cap, transponder key, fuses, electrical wire, electrical tape, duct tape, gaffa tape, fencing wire, cable ties, various screws, various nuts and bolts, hose clamps, epoxy patch strips, engine oil, tubless valves, tyre tube, tubless tyre repair kit.
Mainly carrying the spares for peace of mind. So far only needed to use the radiator cap.
Regards,
Mark
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:32
Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:32
Mark, Thank you.
What's a transponder key?
Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Member - Stillthinkinaboutit - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:36
Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:36
It's the ignition key with the coded chip in the end of it. If you lose one or damage it you are pretty
well stuck. I lost one when we were camping once and it is quite embarrasing when the spare one is at
home. Now I carry a spare in the vehicle (
well hidden of course ).
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Follow Up By: Member - Mozza (NSW) - Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 07:55
Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 07:55
so if the spare key is in the car (hidden), and your lock the actual car keys in the car.. how do you get in?
hope that you got the axe out first to chop up firewood .????
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Follow Up By: Member - Stillthinkinaboutit - Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 08:17
Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 08:17
Getting into the vehicle is usually the least of the problem.
I carry a few spare metal copies of the key ( without transponder chip ).
The copies are only about $ 2.00 ea. whilst the transponder keys cost around $ 100.00 ea.
The copies won't start the vehicle but they do allow access to it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 09:50
Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 09:50
maybe its a differnt type of immobiliser but dont you just need to know the code?
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:41
Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:41
Yeah I don't go tooo far off the into the outback and pretty much never off the beaten track without other 4bies.
I carry Green Tyre goo, Full set of fan belts, top and bottom radiator hose (getting some of that universal heater hose soon), wire, terminal blocks, solidering iron, solder, spare battery terminals (had one break once, lucky it was in the rocky, just got a mate to hold the lead on while I started it then drove
home with no power) wire crimps, bolts and screws, silicon, water, oil, CRC, Big FO jumper leads and a spare air filter, I'm sure there is more crap but I can't think of any at the mo....
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Follow Up By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 19:42
Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 19:42
Oh yeah I always carry the spare keys/remote. And after reading and replying to this post I went out (just then) and finally got off my bum and bought some radiator stop leak, generic heater hose and some gaffer tape for my tool box. :-)
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Follow Up By: Matt (W.A.) - Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 09:40
Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 09:40
A few years ago I got a Credit Card Key from a Cobblers Plus, as the name suggests it’s the size of a credit card and it fits in your wallet/purse quite neatly I wonder if they are still available? It saved me a few times! It was made of Plastic with a metal insert in the Key Part so it wont rust and wasn’t all that thick. Similarly it wouldn’t disarm the alarm so you wouldn’t be able to start the 4by but you could get your keys out!
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Reply By: muzzimbidgie - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:42
Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:42
You could go to the CSR with absolutely no spares at all if you wish !!!
What you must be prepared for is...................... to be able to get out in the event of an accident or
breakdown. You could choose to take three weeks worth of
food & water and a sat phone, and should you break down, just sit and wait to be rescued, as long as you are aware of the money involved, inconvenience to others, the time it would take and possible threat to life or limb, then so be it !
But this is not advisable.
As for fan belts and radiator hoses, I have blown both, and both times I was within cooee of a little country town and both times it was sunday.
As inconvenient as this was, I was not in any danger from dehydration, starvation, sunburn or being stranded for days. Having to phone in sick at work was the only real down side.
Had I been 15 K's up a beach in the middle of nowhere, I would have been stuffed.
The CSR is known for being very hard on vehicles, and you must always be thinking that if it's gonna go wrong, this is where it is most likely to happen, and you must be prepared when it does. Many people have learnt the hard way by thinking that "she'll be right mate" "it'll never happen".
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Reply By: Hano - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:55
Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 17:55
Wolfie,
My kit has all of the above, plus my tirfor, which I carried for 5 years before I got stuck and there wasnt another vehicle that could help, because it was bogged to the running boards as
well. We were in the
Daly river region, 40 degrees, humid as an armpit. Three recoveries and buckets of sweat later we got out. There was nothing a front mounted winch could have done to save us, and i knew then i had made a good decision when i bought that bloody thing and lugged it around for so long.
Hint for new players, dont wait 5 years and for a life and death situation b4 you use your new tirfor for the first time!!!
Hano
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Reply By: Eric Experience. - Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 23:06
Wednesday, Feb 02, 2005 at 23:06
Wolfie.
I have been on many long trips in mitsu diesel and the only thing apart from a puncture that has stopped me was the small belt that drives the balance shafts, it
broke and got jammed in the timing belt causing it to jump a few teeth, it took me an hour to work out what had happened and 3 hours to strip the front of the motor and fix it. The moral of this story is check your timing belts before a long trip and its no use carring spare parts because you can not predict what will fail. I do carry
tools but they are mostly used on other peoples vehicles. Another thing to check on a Deli is the rubber plugs that cover the brake adjusters on the rear drums, if they are left out the drums can get sand in them which leads to dragging brakes and heavy fuel consumtion. The extra weight of spares increases the chance of problems, most of the breakages I have come across on trips are due to speeding overloaded vehicles, the worst thing is putting extra springs on the vehicle and assuming that the overweight problem is fixed. Eric.
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Reply By: Coops (Ex-Pilbara) - Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 10:14
Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 10:14
I always carry hoses, belts, filters, tyre repair gear, all
recovery gear, fuses, filters, 3/8" socket set, ring spanners and even more for bigger trips. Remembering of course that CSR has been my back yard for last 7 years. Have now relocated to south of WA but will still carry all that gear as it all fits into
drawers nicely.
When storing water make allowance for radiator as well as 1 litre per day per person as if you use all your water topping up radiator in CSR then you'll soon be in strife.
I have a checklist that I can send you if you like
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Follow Up By: Member - bushfix - Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 12:25
Thursday, Feb 03, 2005 at 12:25
G'day Coops,
(excuse me digressing Wolfie)
whereabouts have you moved to mate? I covered a fair bit of WA with Telecom before I moved to
Sydney. Love the
Pilbara &
Kimberley but always had a soft spot for Augusta. Family still has 60 acres at Dwellingup, 30 yrs on.
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