sway bar removal on 80 series
Submitted: Saturday, Feb 12, 2005 at 22:14
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udm
Hi guys, if you would want to remove a sway bar on an 80 series, which one would it be, front or rear? or both?
Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 12, 2005 at 22:26
Saturday, Feb 12, 2005 at 22:26
udm,
I had taken the front sway bar off and not long after that I removed the rear.
Body roll is there but if you drive it like a 4WD with no sway bars it is fine.
One thing I did notice is that it had a lot more wheel travel. If that is want you want than go for both.
I did have polyair bags in the back this helped stop the body roll a bit.
Wayne
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Follow Up By: udm - Saturday, Feb 12, 2005 at 22:31
Saturday, Feb 12, 2005 at 22:31
Yep, wheel travel is what i´m looking for. I´m also concerned about the brake lines, etc.
I have standard
suspension, so if you do get rid of em, would the wheels articulate to a point where the breathers, brake lines, etc, stuff up? I´m looking right now to extend brake lines.
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Follow Up By: udm - Saturday, Feb 12, 2005 at 22:31
Saturday, Feb 12, 2005 at 22:31
Yep, wheel travel is what i´m looking for. I´m also concerned about the brake lines, etc.
I have standard
suspension, so if you do get rid of em, would the wheels articulate to a point where the breathers, brake lines, etc, stuff up? I´m not looking right now to extend brake lines.
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 12, 2005 at 22:58
Saturday, Feb 12, 2005 at 22:58
udm,
The diff breather can be extended very easy and should run up into the engine bay on the front and up as high as possible on the rear. I ran both diff breathers to the engine bay fire wall.
The brake hose comes down from the body in the centre of the diff. The pipe then goes along the diff housing to the brakes. The whole diff whould have be at its maximum travel to even come close to stretching the brake hose.
If one wheel was at maximum travel the middle of the diff does not drop that much. The brake hose does not get stretched.
The front and rear diff's are set up the same, in regaurds to the brake hoses.
When I had the Cruiser it had a 5" lift and I did not have to change the brake hose.
Wayne
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 17:18
Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 17:18
Hi I have played with swaybars a fair bit, and would suggest you remove the rear one and leave the front....the rear articulates heaps better without a bar, the front is marginally better. If you fit longer shox to your lifted 80, then you need to space down the front bar by 20mm or so to clear front driveshaft at full droop, id be lying if i said you needed a front swaybar aswell....you can run barless quite easily with an 80, you get used to the small amount of lean...the problem is ....is it legal?? will insurance wipe you if you need them to pay you out after a rollover??
Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 20:00
Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 20:00
Yup, on the surf I removed the rear bar and left the front one in place. I also installed Firestone Air Bags in the rear coils which stabalised it better than with the sway bar on.
I didn't do it because of travel, I did it because I was constantly breaking the sway bar brackets while off road.
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Reply By: udm - Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 21:10
Sunday, Feb 13, 2005 at 21:10
I´ve had a chance today to take off the front bar, and there wasn´t much roll, so it´s staying off, the rear bar is also coming off and heading for a
test drive the next weekend at the jenolan
state forest. Never been there, so I´m hoping it´s a nice trip.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 10:25
Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 10:25
Legally you need them, if you remove them, you 'SHOULD' get an engineers Certificate for the mod since it alters the handling so much on some trucks... Insurance companies can walk away from you if you kcuf up.
Removal of them both maybe a good option and try it.
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Follow Up By: udm - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 17:52
Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 17:52
Good option for what: wheel travel or insurance to walk away? :-)
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 22:54
Monday, Feb 14, 2005 at 22:54
Throw them to thebleephouse, and get car engineers, I did, havent looked back.
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Follow Up By: udm - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 19:26
Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 19:26
I´ve heard about these car engineers, but, how do you get to them, in what places/shops do you find car engineers that do this kind of job, and how much do they usually cost?
PS. Thanks btw to everybody that gives us a hand with info and stuff.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 16:44
Wednesday, Feb 16, 2005 at 16:44
Vicroads, RTA, etc they have lists of SELECTED ones that they will allow to approve things.
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Reply By: udm - Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 15:37
Tuesday, Feb 15, 2005 at 15:37
I´ve heard about these car engineers, but, how do you get to them, in what places/shops do you find people that do this kind of job, and how much do they usually cost?
PS. Thanks btw to everybody that gives us a hand with info and stuff.
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