Terracan Questions/general 4wd questions

Submitted: Thursday, Feb 24, 2005 at 10:50
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G'day all.
Have just recently been given this site by my best mate, and find it one of the most informative on the net. Thankyou to all members for that.
I have a few questions for Terracan drivers or people with similar experiences.
I have decided to upgrade my falcon to a 4wd, and pretty much decided on a Terracan for value for money.

Q1: Is the suspension upgrade worth it considering: I will probably drive to Coffs twice a year from Mackay. I will probably take it to either Fraser or Outback twice a year and the rest of time is normal rural driving. (our roads are pretty crap up here)

Q2: Diesel or Unleaded. Given the same question above, which would you opt for. I prob do about 20 000kms a year.

Q3: Manual or Auto. Given the Manual is about $2000 cheaper, is it worth going to an auto. I don't mind either way nor does the missus. Not too much traffic in Mackay to deal with. Is the cost of servicing more expensive with either???

Q4: The cost of 4wd servicing. How much more does the Diesel cost than the petrol. Some suggest servicing it every 7500 in the tropics and others say with the new style diesel engines this is not required??

Thanks for any responses. Appreciate them.
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Reply By: flappa - Thursday, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:14

Thursday, Feb 24, 2005 at 11:14
Q1. A couple of the people I have spoken to that own Terracans , say the suspension IS soft. Add a decent load to it (by adding Bullbar etc to the front , and towbar and towing at the rear) , and they said Aftermarket suspension is almost a MUST.

Q2. Petrol V Diesel. Age old debate. It boils down to personal preference. Maybe it depends on how you do those K's. Diesels are not particularily good at quick runs. Down to the shops and back. Petrols are better for that. If you aren't intending on travelling to outback places , again , the Petrol MAY be the better proposition. The V6 Petrol is the Old Pajero motor which is good , although , not the most fuel efficient motor very produced.

Q3. Personal Choice. I like my Auto , makes a lot of things a lot easier. Also , being a newcomer to 4wd's , its also a handy learning tool (cant stall an auto on hills). An auto on a Diesel is almost as good as it comes.

Q4. Generally , Diesels cost more to service then Petrols. More Oil , dearer filters , more often. Diesels really need to be serviced regularily to get the best out of them. A petrol can be neglected a little more without major problems.

Its something you probably need to do figures on , yourself. Amount of K's you do , Petrol V Diesel pricing (fuel) , servicing costs (dealer should know).

Whilst I'm a firm believer in adding things up and checking costings etc , and I like my Auto Petrol Patrol , when it comes to the Terracan , I would be lining up for the Diesel (auto if possible) , heart would rule over head for that one.
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Reply By: Terracan - Thursday, Feb 24, 2005 at 12:59

Thursday, Feb 24, 2005 at 12:59
Hi

My wife's Terracan is about 18 months old with 20,000 kms. Fairly hassle free motoring so far.

In terms of your questions:
1. Recently upgraded suspension - this is a must as the factory setup is average to say the least.

2. Ours is unleaded as the diesel was not available. Fuel consumption would be similar to your Falcon - I have a BA. I would certainly consider a diesel if I was shopping again.

3. Ours is an manual - my wife prefers a manual. Probably would consider a auto if we were shopping again.

4. Servicing pricing is okay in comparison to my wife's previous Mazda/Suzuki.

Cheers
Chris
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Reply By: Skiddy - Thursday, Feb 24, 2005 at 15:25

Thursday, Feb 24, 2005 at 15:25
If price is an issue with getting an auto just shop around, I did and got the auto for nothing. also try www.discountnewcars.com.au they are like a broker and dont charge the ends user for the service. They are not allways the cheapest but give you a good starting point. also dont go by the price listed on their website as the price changes frrom time to time
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Reply By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 24, 2005 at 20:32

Thursday, Feb 24, 2005 at 20:32
Dave,

1. The standard suspension is very soft and the car rolls like a pig in mud. TJM do an upgrade for $900, 4 new shockers, new rear springs, tweak up the torsion bars and modifry the front bump stops. Handles a lot better, no sag in the rear when towing and 45mm lift for better off road ability. It is a necessity in my opinion.

2. Mine is petrol because I prefer petrol performance. Will use more fuel than a diesel but that is something I can put up with. Diesel will cost you about $2000 more to buy, so it takes a while before the diesel becomes cheaper overall. Keep in mind diesel is about 10 cents per litre more to buy. My petrol auto does 0-100 km/h in 10.5 seconds which puts you into normal sedan performance relms. Also when I nail it at around 90 km/h it kicks back 2 gears and really gets up and goes. Great on the highway. A diesel will not do this. Petrol is in my opinion far better for general driving.

3. I bought auto primarily for off road work. Never caught in the wrong gear. Experienced 4wd drivers may be able to pick the right gear for the right occassion but I like the option of being able to select another gear without loss of momentum (great in sand).

4. Can't comment. Perhaps check with the dealer about service costs and make your own decision. I choose to get mine serviced at 7500 ($95) because I don't like the idea of leaving oil in a motor for 15000 km. Just my choice btu I reckon an extra $95 evry 8 months on a 40 grand investment is chicken bleep .

One other thing, if you buy one, get new tyres fitted before you take delivery. Decent A/T's will cost you about an extra $700 for 5 tyres.

Finally, I'm very happy with my Jerry Can. Great value, great on the road and very competent off road. Just don't expect it to do things a Patrol can. Having said that, it has done far more than I ever expected it to. Fantastic in sand.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Follow Up By: davenkel - Tuesday, Mar 01, 2005 at 14:25

Tuesday, Mar 01, 2005 at 14:25
Jim

This is the first time i have been able to look at the responses.
thanks very much. i have been viewing your posts for a period now and find them quite helpful
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Reply By: firestang - Thursday, Feb 24, 2005 at 23:32

Thursday, Feb 24, 2005 at 23:32
Had my terracan from just after Xmas this year ,so far could not be happier.
I would most likely have got the deisel but the timing (money) was not quite right .But as we only really do about 15-20k deisel would not have been all that much cheaper in the long run.

I went from an EF wagon and while the rear luggage area is not as big as in wide and long ,the seats are higher .

Petrol usage is slightly higher (1.5 -2ltrs per 100) but i can live with that ,it goes like a cut cat but so does the gauge in the downward direction.
The suspension i can live with for now you just drive within the limitations ,but hey it is a 4wd.

The 15k service was quoted at 270 dollars so it's near the same as the old car.
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Reply By: Member - Tim D (VIC) - Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 08:10

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 08:10
hi terracan tim here buy the diesil and get the the auto. You will get better value for your mony on the trade in. Went to trade my petrol manual may 2004 model on the new diesil one mine has the lift kit and full replacement bullbar and dvd system They offered me $25000 for it I nearly dropped dead. So looks it looks like I will be keeping it for a while longer. All aside love the 4x4 well my missess does as I now drive a landcruiser myself.

Tim
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Follow Up By: Terracan - Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:14

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:14
Hi Tim

In terms of trade in, last month we were offered $19k for our manual 2003 Terracan (not highlander). And yes we will be keeping ours a while longer too.

Chris
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Follow Up By: Brian - Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 23:17

Friday, Feb 25, 2005 at 23:17
Picked up my diesel version this morning. The new Terracan I worked out on the road was around $44,000 and I paid $16,000 to change over so I guess I got $28,000 trade in. I was only interested in the changeover figure in the end. Any way I was bloody happy with the deal and I was the only one that it had to please. Looking forward to many great trips in the diesel Terracan.
Cheers
The Bigfella
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