Availability of ULP

Submitted: Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 14:19
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I am planning a trip from Yulara to Leonora in WA via Docker River, Warburton, Laverton. I know that FUEL is available but I have an ULP Mitsibishi. Is ULP available all the way? What is the condition of the road? What is the availability of water?

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Reply By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 15:19

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 15:19
go to the home page and scroll down until you see the treks which are listed by state then click on great central road which is under western australia and all will be revealed. When I travelled the road in 03 from yulara to docker river was horrifically corragated until I met the grader then it was ok but with changing surfaces meaning it paid to keep the speed to 80 and not speed up on the good patches then getting caught out on a sandy patch
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Reply By: Footloose - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 16:51

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 16:51
Also about 20K past Warberton there's a nasty bend where a few travellers have come to grief.
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Follow Up By: Phil@K - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 17:22

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 17:22
Thanks to all who have answred but I do need to know if ULP and water is available as I have a 2wd Mitsibishi Triton and may not be in my best interest travelling around in the sand etc.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 19:53

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 19:53
There is water availiable at all the roadhouses and Docker. If it rains in that area water will definately not be a problem :) No ULP from Uluru to Laverton (which isn't referred to as L.A. for nothing) from memory. You will need a permit to travel through Aboriginal lands. This means only camping at designated camping areas and not being able to venture very far from the track.
I've done the journey in two days comfortably (in 4wd) with a stop at Warberton camping grounds where you can have a shower and cook in the cooking area etc.
The "road" is a wide bush track and is maintained from the Olgas to the WA border. It's a main throughfare for everything from 2wds to mining convoys. If in 2wd try not to be there if its had a lot of rain.
It's a typical bush highway. Easy at times, awful at others. Ring the appropriate places (roadhouses, police ?) before setting off and ask their advice if worried.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 14:09

Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 14:09
Footloose, ulp is available at the t something ot rather road house as mentioned in the great central road trek and phil 2wd triton will be fine some areas are sandy but not boggy locals weapon of choice is the xd - xf falcon
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 15:31

Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 15:31
Davoe, my latest info is that ULP is not availiable on that road. The area around Docker is prone to flooding during serious rain , and even local falls will tuen some of that "sand" into bog holes (yes I towed one of the local weapons out of one) , hence my advice not to be in the area if there is heavy rain.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Monday, Feb 28, 2005 at 10:14

Monday, Feb 28, 2005 at 10:14
F L I read your post a bit quickly. I wouldnt like to travel the road when wet but is certainly fine when dry. I noticed the creeks around DR. As for fuel, that could do with clarification as according to the trek notes ulp was avail at T (keep forgeting the rest of it)roadhouse but that was a while ago they may have stopped again
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Reply By: Zita - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 18:12

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 18:12
Hi there,
There is a sign at the Docker River turnoff near the Olgas that reads 'No ULP for 834 klms'.(I am not sure of the exact number but it was over 800). Two wheel drive is no problem though as most of the locals only have old tanks. When we came through last August the road was good all the way from Warburton. A bit rough on the gunbarrel the other side though. Happy travelling. Doug
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Reply By: bevnles - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 18:14

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 18:14
You will find all the answers in a new book just published by Drew Radford who has travelled around/across Australia twice recently on a motor bike. The book is called NOT ALL RINGERS AND COWBOYS and is published by ABC Press. He travelled that exact route and tells of the road conditions, characters etc and fuel stops and there is no ULP sold in that area as a way of addressing the petrol sniffing habit. I don't know the cost of the book as I borrowed it from local Library. Well worth a read for anybody travelling in that area.
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 19:55

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 19:55
I wonder if he had a yarn with the caretaker at Warberton campgrounds. If he did it would of been a very late start :)))
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Reply By: Ferret - Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 23:45

Saturday, Feb 26, 2005 at 23:45
Greetings, Warburton etc will be getting the new OPAL ULP to replace the Avgas in the coming weeks.
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Reply By: Member - Anni M (SA) - Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 08:03

Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 08:03
Hi Phil,

We drove down the Great Central Road last June. It was a very easy drive, however there wasn't any ULP at all. In view of the last post, it might be worth contacting Warburton before you go. Be very careful where you leave your vehicle though, because there is a significant petrol sniffing problem at Docker River and at Warburton, and we heard several tales of people having their fuel lines cut. These may or may not be true, but you might as well be careful. Water is available at Docker River,Warakurna, Warburton and Tjukayirla, the latter being a lovely surprise - it is an immaculately clean and pleasant roadhouse. Having said all this, I would never travel in the outback without very good supplies of fuel and water for that just in case moment.
Enjoy yourself, there is lots to see along the way.
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Follow Up By: Squizzy - Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 15:16

Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 15:16

As Anni M has said, the road is very good driving, I would class it is an outback highway.
It does become impassable with rain though.

ULP is normally available at Tjukayirla Roadhouse, but check ahead.

We camped at Warburton last June, and the camp ground has a large cyclone fence and a gate that is closed at 4.30pm for security reasons each day. Showers and laundry facilities are also available there.

It is a long way from Uluru to Laverton, so make sure you are well equipped just in case.

Have a good trip, and enjoy,
the country is great.


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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 13:12

Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 13:12
The Great Central Road looks like this
Unless they have that new non-sniff petrol (Opal) at Warakurna you will need to carry extra ULP to get from Laverton to Yulara.
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Reply By: Davo N - Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 22:40

Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 22:40

I travelled this road last July in an EF Falcon. At that time, the road was in great condition, with occasional corrugated sections. Talk about local tanks, I passed a mid-80's era Hyundai Excel with 5 occupants near Cosmo, then saw it the next day at Warburton!

Obviously my car is ULP, and although I brought jerry cans, I didn't need to touch them as Tjukayirla RH and Warakurna both had ULP. Bring your own water.

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Follow Up By: Davo N - Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 22:50

Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 22:50
Sorry Warakurna didn't have ULP... but I remember not having to fill up till Yulara. 800km range.

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Follow Up By: Squizzy - Monday, Feb 28, 2005 at 09:00

Monday, Feb 28, 2005 at 09:00
Davo N,

That Hyundai Excel may be the same one we passed near Docker River last June.
The one we passed was dark red, and also had 5 locals in it.
The car had no windscreen, and was doing about 30 kmh with a female driver.

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