Terracan Question for Jimbo

Submitted: Sunday, Feb 27, 2005 at 22:52
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Hi Jimbo
Just a quick question or 2

Looking at the cost of getting new tyres before i drive out of the yard . I was looking at the cooper ST's any thoughts on the tyre ? I see you have the toyo on your terry . And another thing was with the trek 'n' tow kit it puts $ 2900 on the price :-( How do you find the TJM range you have and the trek n tow only gives you a 20 mm lift ?

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Dave
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Reply By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Monday, Feb 28, 2005 at 07:54

Monday, Feb 28, 2005 at 07:54
Dave,

The reason I went with the Toyos was that they were one of a few I could legally fit due to the speed and load rating required. They seem OK but they are bloody near useless in mud.

What do they include for $2900?

TJM did 4 new AGS shockers, new rear AGS springs, adjusted my existing torsion bars (at the time none were available) and modified the front bump stops, $900. I got 45mm lift. Tim D also had his done at TJM but they used Kings springs and he is also very happy with his.

If you like, give me a call on 0438 101983.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Follow Up By: thepilot - Monday, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:24

Monday, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:24
Jimbo

Thanks for the info I will give you a call later in the day

Dave
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Reply By: MarkC - Monday, Feb 28, 2005 at 21:14

Monday, Feb 28, 2005 at 21:14
Dave,
G'Day new to this site, being a happy Terracan owner I'll put in my 2 bob. The original tyres were hopeless, I was all set to get the Cooper All Terrains but got a deal on Goodyear Wrangler AT-R's that was too good to pass, they even gave me a 7 day trial period, if I was'nt happy they would change them! These tyres are quiet on the bitumen and have performed well on all my 4 wheel drive trips inclusive of muddy tracks, creek and water crossings. Most members in our 4 wheel drive club have either Cooper's or BF Goodrich, so I reckon you will be OK with the Coopers. In regard to the suspension upgrade I also had mine done by TJM, 4 new shockies, rear coils, torsion bar adjusted which resulted in a 45mm lift for the back and 40mm the front. The difference to the car from the original tyres and suspension to the Goodyear AT's and TJM suspension is chalk and cheese. For $2900 the factory backed suspension upgrade would want to be good, it may pay to visit your local TJM and pocket the difference. After the suspension upgrade which was done before the tyres were fitted I had been hoping to fit 265/70's in replace of the standard 255/65's to get more ground clearance, but missed by a few mm at the front. I had to settle for 245/70's which gave a slight 6mm improvement to ground clearance from the originals but at least I saved on having to recalibrate the speedo if the larger 265/70's had been fitted.

Cheers, Mark
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Follow Up By: GibbsyWA - Friday, Mar 04, 2005 at 15:08

Friday, Mar 04, 2005 at 15:08
Mark,
following on from what you said about tyre size. I have just bought a TD Terracan and by chance at the same time my brother in law has traded from a petrol Parado to a Diesel but the new model has 17" wheels and he had just put a brand new set of Cooper AT 265/75R16's on the old parado and asked if a wanted them. From what you are saying they are unlikey to fit on the terracan. I was going to put up with the speedo being out. I have about 2 weeks to decide.
Yours or others feedback welcome.

Thanks
Dean
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Follow Up By: MarkC - Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 17:22

Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 17:22
Hi Dean,

Congrats on buying the Terracan, I'm sure you will be very happy. About the tyres I was very disappointed in not being able to fit the 265's, no problem for the back but the problem for the front tyres is that they will scrub on full lock. On the 245/70's that I fitted they only just miss scrubing now on full lock and I had a mechanic friend of mine check this for me and he agreed that these are about the biggest tyres I can fit without doing any further modifcations to the vehicle. I hope this helps but I reckon you should have a chat to your local tyre specialist. If your Terracan comes with the same Hankook tyres that came with mine, they should be replaced before going offroad. I know of one Terracan owner who had on the one trip two flat tyres and had to be recovered twice on the Hankook's.

Cheers,
Mark
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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Friday, Mar 04, 2005 at 19:39

Friday, Mar 04, 2005 at 19:39
I'm similarly looking at tyres, wheels and a suspension upgrade. Just about fell on the floor of our local Hyundai dealership's spare parts shop when I priced the trak n tow kit - $2000 just for the parts and then not available until after Easter. Priced alternatives at Opposite Lock - Tough Dogs by 4Way $1100 all up; ARB use Koni Shocks etc and their all up price was $1477. So a considerable saving either way. Would be interested if anybody has any history of either of these systems. Lift as per the TJM mentioned above will be in the order of 40-45mm.

Sourcing wheels & tyres that will not break the bank is the next job, as I've heard that the GRR is not to kind on pretty alloys.

Currently have the factory fitted Hankooks, found them ok on rock and gravel but in the sand had to let them down to 13lbs to get the same performance as other vehicles in the party did by letting their tyres down to between 16 and 14lbs depending on the size and make.
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Follow Up By: thepilot - Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 08:36

Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 08:36
Hi Duncan

About the suspension upgrade for the terracan. I dont have the car as yet but i will be looking at the TJM upgrade Jimbo from Vic said it works fine and I also think Tim D from vic has also had it done. I got a break down from one of the TJM stors here in Syd ....

We have a kit to suit your Terracan which has the following parts and costs,
(1) XGS shock absorbers $153 each
(2) Protective dust covers (front only) $24pr
(3) TJM rear coils (approx 40 to 50mm lift) $145
(4) Fitting of 2 to 3 hours $140
(5) Total cost supply & fit $921

Hope it is of some help. Let me know how it all goes and like I said get
in touch with Jimbo . He wont bite ..

Regards
Dave
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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 17:15

Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 17:15
Thanks Dave, I've checked and we have 2 stores here in Perth. Will give them a call.
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Reply By: Troppo - Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 22:00

Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 22:00
Hi guys, reading your Terracan tyre/suspension chat with interest. Looking at purchasing the new TD in the near future. I agree that the astrel Trekntow kit is way overpriced at $2000, considering it's only 4 shocks 2 coils and 2 bump stops!(made overseas/aus specs) not withstanding.
Give it 6 months, and they will probably throw it in with a deal.
I will look into the torsion bar issue, adjustment or replacement, preffering replacement, as lifting with standard bars on a long rough trip, in my experience may cause problems.
Very interested in the warranty issue with suspension/ tyre mods, any experience with dealers at service intervals?
Any one want to rate their new Turbo Diesel, performance, economy, fit, finish, service costs etc. Appreciate any feedback. Cheers Martin.
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Follow Up By: MarkC - Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 00:00

Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 00:00
Troppo,

I checked with Hyundai before upgrading the suspension (TJM), they had no problems, also the insurance company had no problems with either suspension upgrade or tyres. My experience with the service dept has been very good and reasonably priced so far, but I've only had 2 oil changes and the 15,ooo service.

Cheers,
Mark
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Reply By: dingbat - Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 12:33

Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 12:33
Troppo
Just confirming MarkC's comments re TJM suspension mods, no comments from dealer at service time(a 22500k intermediate service done on friday last) and no problems with the TJM products either

regards Ding
ps Jimbo how thick are your front bumpstops after the shave
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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 13:11

Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 13:11
Ding,

He shaved 10mm off them.

Jim.
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Reply By: Troppo - Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 18:26

Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 18:26
Thanks for the input guys. Interesting and hopefully good news re the dealers, but ultimately you will only really know when a claim is made under warranty.
The TJM setup sounds good, and the price is fine. I wonder was there any comment made by the installers regarding the front end lift, ie how strong are the factory torsion bars? Would they cope with the extra load? Are they still within safe working limits? Can any one post a picture of their lifted Terracans, that would be excellent. Cheers for now Martin (NT).
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Reply By: Terracan - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2005 at 03:47

Tuesday, Mar 08, 2005 at 03:47
Just caught up with this thread.

Just my 20 cents.

I ended up with the Pedders option, which essentially is 41 mm foam cell shockers made by Gabriel (I am told the Tough Dog ones are also made by Gabriel) with Pedders springs at the back and the front torsion bars wound up. From memory it was about 40 - 45 mm lift all round. Cost me just over $1000.

Cheers
Chris
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