100 Series clutch shudder problem fixed ??

Submitted: Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 14:44
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Hello all, the warranty on my 100 series expires this month. I've had 2 clutch replacements (20K and 35K) and the shudder is still occurring when engine is cold.
At the last replacement the dealer stated that if the problem continued I'd have to take it up with Toyota. Obviously, even though the dealer admits that the shudder is still present, they're not prepared to do anything about it. Service manager is now saying that it's not actually clutch shudder but engine torque that's causing the problem (sounds like a load of BS to me). Anyway, is anyone else still having this problem and can it be rectified. Your thoughts and/or recommendations would be much appreciated
The vehicle has just clocked up 55,000 km
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Obone
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 14:48

Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 14:48
Obone,, sounds like a good reason to buy a Patrol.. my wifes GU Patrol has 315,000 ks on the clock and has done some heavy climbing over the 5 years and still the original clutch. ooohhhh soooo gooood.. michael.
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Reply By: obone - Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 15:06

Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 15:06
OUCH !!!!!!!!!!
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 15:17

Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 15:17
just joking.. both Nissan and Toyota have their problems... more the pity.. michael
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Reply By: obone - Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 15:37

Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 15:37
Then there's the school of thought that Toyota (aka nissan recovery units) clutches are overworked from pulling Nissans out of bogs LOL
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 09:08

Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 09:08
Hey , thats very goood!!!
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Reply By: johnsie - Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 18:57

Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 18:57
I remember reading in a Aussie mag way back that its a pressure plate problem and the springs are the problem.Maybe try the toyota site and see if and answers come out of there also this may you on the track htttp://autospeed.com/cms/A_0180/printArticle.html
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 21:35

Saturday, Mar 05, 2005 at 21:35
Obone
its not unheard of for the 1hz (i presume here) to shudder when cold. There is a hard spot on the flywheel that causes this 99% of the time....suggest to them that a new flywheel might stop you coming back again....and the time that it has been in the workshop over the warrenty period, should be added onto the warrenty period.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 09:11

Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 09:11
Yeah Dozer, by actually giving the guy what he paid for might actually make him a happy customer.... now that would be good... he may even then buy another toyota again...The car companies really just dont get it do they??
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Reply By: obone - Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 12:55

Sunday, Mar 06, 2005 at 12:55
I was told that the fly wheel was replaced on both previous occasions
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Reply By: Alan S (NSW) - Monday, Mar 07, 2005 at 10:33

Monday, Mar 07, 2005 at 10:33
G'day Obone,
My 1Hz has the same problem, now out of warranty, came back 4 months after Mt Toyota last had it, its not to bad and goes away after a few mins. A friend had the same problem and his shudder came back after 5K Kms. I think you are just going to have to live with it.
Mine is not too bad, is yours unbearable?
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Reply By: mid life - Monday, Mar 07, 2005 at 11:02

Monday, Mar 07, 2005 at 11:02
Hi Obone,

Shudder is a known problem in all Toyota's with the 4.2 diesels I've got a 79 series and have also got a this problem I believe Toyota have tried several fixes over the years with no real success. I have even heard that Toyota have been working with Daiken to try and find a fix using non genuine parts.

I've come to the conclusion that this problem is caused by the sum of all its parts, not just one, so unfortunately if if you have a shudder it may be with you of the life of the vehicle.

Mine is not to bad and you can drive around it if you know what I mean, but it is annoying. It can change depending on the amount of air in the tyres and the more you abuse the clutch the better it is, also there's not trace of it at all in low range.

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