High Country Burn off!

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 10, 2005 at 23:13
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Well the rocket scientists at the DSE have done it again, in their infinite wisdom they have decided to conduct an 800 hectare 'fuel reduction burn' north of Licola over the coming long weekend!

Might be prudent to steer well clear if you value your lives!
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Reply By: Gajm (VIC) - Thursday, Mar 10, 2005 at 23:24

Thursday, Mar 10, 2005 at 23:24
These are profesionals you are talking about!...only the majority of their burns get out of control. They must be aiming for about 80 hectares and allowing another 720 for error.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Mar 10, 2005 at 23:48

Thursday, Mar 10, 2005 at 23:48
Another stroke of Genius...
A Long weekend. Could they pick a busier more dangerous time?

I'd say they were aiming for 1 acre let alone hectare.. the rest for error
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Reply By: AdrianLR - Thursday, Mar 10, 2005 at 23:57

Thursday, Mar 10, 2005 at 23:57
They're not known as the Department of Scorched Earth for nothing!
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Follow Up By: Member - Anni M (SA) - Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 09:11

Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 09:11
Our mates in the high country call them the department of Sparks and Embers.
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Follow Up By: GOB & denny vic member - Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 17:29

Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 17:29
daughter and son in law have land adjoining dse property near yarram known locally as dept of stupidty and entertainment
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Reply By: Darryn - Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 08:49

Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 08:49
They are pretty serious about this one as they have pulled in staff from everywhere. At 7.30 this morning a convoy of about 8 L/Cruiser utes with slip-on tanks left the motel in Maffra and one had Casterton on the tank. They are going to take advantage of the weather this w/end but just imagine the overtime bill. I wonder what tracks will close this winter not to reopen because of no money after they spend it this w/end. Another interesting thing is this burn is right above a property owned by there most vocal critic in this area.
Regd's Darryn
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 08:54

Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 08:54
Take advantage of the weather?? Its going to be 30+..

The only thing they are missing is 200kph winds to have perfect 'conditions'!

8 slipons wont get them far! Oh hang on they have 1 tanker too..
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Reply By: Leroy - Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 09:40

Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 09:40
Started buring off in the Kiewa Valley yesterday also. Don't know why they feel the need to burn off before the long weekend.

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Follow Up By: Member - bushfix - Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 09:59

Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 09:59
G'day Leroy,

HR (Hazard Reduction) planning is a very time consuming process and implementing it is even harder. HRs are to a great extent, dependant on Fuel Moisture content (FMC) and prevailing conditions. Not to mention environmental issues (eg. threatened flora and fauna.) So it may be that they want to get the burn in quickly, it may have been postponed from earlier dates. 800 ha. is a pretty big HR so I imagine a lot of out of area assistance would be needed. Truckster mentioned 30+ degrees which is indeed warm, need to also know the humidity, wind direction and be prepared for a change around 14-1500 hrs. FMC readings were probably (?) taken late this week to determine if it was worth it/safe to burn. I don't know anything about how the DSE operates (or of their capability) but the slip-ons would perhaps be used for spotovers and general patrol.

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Reply By: Crackles - Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 18:51

Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 18:51
It seems DSE are doomed if they burn or doomed if they don't. Weren't the majority complaining after the 2003 fires because not enough fuel reduction was done? I know the CFA were. The timing of the burn is totally dependant on the weather. Start it a week early & they have bushfire, a week later & with a bit more rain they wont even be able to light it. To suggest lives are at risk is a bit alarmist as the burn is mostly along the ground. Any roads that may be a bit hot are closed for the day so the biggest inconvienience is the smoke. The main thing 4x4 drivers need to watch is the damaged trees that occationally fall accross the track. Although the cost as mentioned by a few would not be cheap, the consiquences of a wild fire next summer would be infinately more. (& lives would be at risk!)
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 23:22

Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 23:22
Let the cattle back!
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 19:42

Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 19:42
I don't know what it's like over there but I know when CALM burn of here in WA people get up in arms and complain about the smoke and "what about the elderly and people with breathing difficulties?"

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Well... This is a picture taken from one of our front security cameras at work 1:52pm. That's right, not even 2pm in the middle of summer!
We had nearly a full week of this because some dim wit was lighting fires all through the hills and the whole city was like this.

Wada you reckons better??
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Reply By: Davoe - Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 21:22

Friday, Mar 11, 2005 at 21:22
Anyone here actually checked out totally natural bushland with no habitation for miles and rarely visited with very few tracks - well the closest you will come to this kind of bushland is east of Norseman in the Dundas nature reserve. It gave me a different perspective to what natural bush is and it isnt huge old growth bush. It does exist but in pockets surrounded by areas that have been burnt out either recently 5 years ago or 10 years ago. The mega dense regrowth after fires makes it prime for reburning after that and up it goes again. In this part of the world fires are left to burn and can go for months consuming areas that eastern staters would consider amazing. no point really just an observation of mine. probably at least 70% of the reserve has been burnt inthe last 10 years (lightning strikes)
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Reply By: desert - Saturday, Mar 12, 2005 at 11:48

Saturday, Mar 12, 2005 at 11:48
When would you burn it then? Middle of winter perhaps? Do you think they will light it just to burn for the three days then turn it off? Or perhaps you would like to see it burnt off in the middle of summer?
Can't win can they?
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Reply By: AdrianLR - Monday, Mar 14, 2005 at 21:43

Monday, Mar 14, 2005 at 21:43
Oops.....only an extra 480Ha including some private land and fences at Licola

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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Mar 14, 2005 at 21:49

Monday, Mar 14, 2005 at 21:49
Heard on the Radio this afternoon on the way home from the High Country that this burn has now been declared officially out of control.

So whats new with DSE.
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