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Hi
I am new to the 4wd game, at this stage I have choice of a newTerracan highlander with the trek and tow pack or a new jeep cherokee renegade .The problem is I can't decide which one to buy any suggestions.
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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Monday, Mar 14, 2005 at 23:24

Monday, Mar 14, 2005 at 23:24
took my wife on a 4wd course,(she won't ;isten to me), a renegade was on the same course, it kept getting bogged, LOL. I've had my Jerrycan since last Aug, (great car) good off road, water crossings, sand, rock etc. Bit low underneath but a new shocky system will fix that. The Trac - n Tow system will give you about 45mm of lift but you pay for it.

best of luck

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Follow Up By: wenabri - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:19

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:19
Thanks Dunc
The more I read about the terry the more i think it's the one. Is there a winch compatible bar for the terracan. ARB are saying maybe two to three months away.
P.S I am buying the diesel, auto.The wife wants to see as many national parks as we can. We are qld based.
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 23:15

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 23:15
I have the petrol, if the diesal had been available last year and i wasn't so impatiant, we would more than likely gone for the diesal also. Don't know about a winch. With the trac-n-tow system the extra weight of the winch may not be an issue with the front end suspension. Ask around.

Wish you well with your travels.

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Reply By: Bitsumishin - Mike (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:59

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 08:59
2 different sorts of car & I suspect different price ranges. The Terracan is a 7 seater or for those who want heaps of packing / storage room. Overall, the Renegade is a far more capable vehicle off road if the interior room is sufficient for your needs. If anyone saw one getting bogged on a training day, then it was just the driver, not the car. The Terracan got a good write up in a couple of recent 4by mags.
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Follow Up By: wenabri - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:32

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:32
Thanks for the reply Mike I will let you know which one I get
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Reply By: old-plodder - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 09:00

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 09:00
Not having owned or driven either, I would be looking for some write ups in the 4wd magazines and asking places like this :-) Your local library got any mags?
From what I have read, the renegade may not be such a good long distance tourer.

What will you be doing with the car? This is an important question.
The people on this forum vary from mostly bitumen drivers who mainly use them for towing to some serious off road use. You need to ask some one who has a similar use to you.
How many people will it carry? 1 , 2 or 5 or more?
Are you city or country based?

In regard to previous post about being bogged, maybe it was the driver of the renegade that was the problem.

Have you had both of them for a good test drive? How do you feel about them?
Why do you want to buy a 4wd rather than a mid sized station wagon?

Don't feel I doubt your intentions or decisions to this date, but these are the sort of questions I assume you have already worked through, and we all have done it, but these answers would help the people on the forum give you a better answer.
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Follow Up By: wenabri - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:29

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:29
Thanks for the reply old plodder,
have read lots of books, the wife wants to tour and see this great land of ours (national parks etc, north, south ,west ) Have taken both for a test the wife thought the terracan fitted her better than the jeep, (she felt safer)
At times there may be six people , most of the time it will be just the two of us and camping gear.
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Reply By: Rod W - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 15:32

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 15:32
Wouldn't get neither. Go for something decent instead of toy stuff.
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Follow Up By: wenabri - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:21

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:21
Hi Rod
outa my price range
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Follow Up By: Brian - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:03

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:03
You have obviously not absorbed what has been said about the Terracan. Just bought the diesel (had a petrol for 16 months) and for $40,000 there is NOTHING on the market that will come close.
I know I have been sucked in to a reply but I can't help myself as a Terracan owner for nearly 18 months.
Just amazes me why there are so many Terracan knockers out there who have no bloody idea.
Lets look at this conversation in 2 years time when the Terracan has kicked butt Australia wide.
Now I feel better.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:24

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:24
The supremely intelligent Rod W said;

"Wouldn't get neither. Go for something decent instead of toy stuff. "

Juvenile, ill-informed nonsense serves no purpose on this, or any other forum.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Reply By: allanmac856 - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:44

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:44
IMO, I would go the Terracan, but with a suspension lift. Whilst Hyundai have had a reputation for 'poor quality' vehicles, they have improved heaps over the last yr or so. The Terracan runs alot of Gen11 Pajero gear & Pajeros are a pretty good jigger, (I have one & it is fantastic for what I want).

For the price, you couldn't go far wrong.
(PS. Jeep resale is pretty ordinary also).

Cheers
allanmac856
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Follow Up By: wenabri - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:38

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:38
Thank you allanmac856
My dad has had a couple of hyundai sedans. had no trouble. we have a lot of pajero's at my work place they seem to handle the rough stuff handed to them.
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Reply By: Member - Frank - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:55

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:55
You will get more questions than answers it makes no differance what you buy a good driver will get any where, you have obviously taken the first step to see if you like 4 wheel driving, if can afford suggest you hire each for a weekend then you will be happy with your pick after all its a lot of money new

I will start the debate I prefer toyota

ps dont be afraid to pick a few extras it does not hurt to have a little comfort
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Follow Up By: wenabri - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:42

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 21:42
g'day Frank
I am going to try one of those 4wd training days myself, and join a 4wd club.
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Reply By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:39

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:39
wenabri,

I'll try to help. I've owned a Jerry Can (petrol) for nine months and it has been superb.

bleep off the T&T package from the dealer, it is a rip. You can get a decent suspension package fitted by TJM (the way I went for $900), or other after market traders.

There are full bars available for around $1200. Terracan Tim has one, full alloy and looks good.

Ignore the knockers, and they are declining in numbers as they see what the Jerry can do. It is a genuine contender in the medium duty stakes. With lifted suspension and half decent tyres it will do stuff you never thought it could do.

Consider your options carefully, I did. For around 40 large, leather, climate control, MP3 player, ABS, 7 seats, etc etc, plus 5 year warranty, it's hard to beat.

Good Luck,

Jim.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 23:07

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 23:07
Jim, I'm curious about the sill clearance on your lifted Can, would you mind measuring it for me please.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 20:01

Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 20:01
Ray,

When I get it on a flat surface I'll measure it and Mem Mess you.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 22:51

Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 22:51
Would appreciate that, thanks Jim.
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Reply By: MarkC - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:40

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:40
G'Day,
I took a punt on the Jerrycan 18months ago, did the training & joined the local 4wd club. I love the Jerry and would happily recommend it. Compromise is a key word, whilst it may not compete with the Patrols & Cruisers it more than handles all of my clubs offroad trips which are graded C grade with some B grade options if you are game. The tyres and suspension will need to be addressed before going offroad, but apart from that it's pretty capable offroad. What my wife likes most about the Jerry is how well it cruises down the highway, we find it a very comfortable tourer, very quiet , tows our camper no worries and plenty of payload capacity at 820Kg, heaps of room for camping gear. All up considering the purchase price and everything comes standard a great vehicle.

Cheers,
Mark
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Follow Up By: Brian - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 23:15

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 23:15
Mark

You have said it perfectly."Compromise is a key word"
I get conned by the knockers and admit it. My wife loves our Terracan (especially the new diesel). Just had my 1000km service today. I like it better than the petrol (that's 'cause I keep looking at the fuel guage).
Really, for the money they are great. I am very impressed with the quietness of the diesel after the petrol and the few extra goodies in the new 2005 model that I didn't have in the petrol.
As I have said before after having 3 Commodores over a period of 10 years I am rapt in the Terracan. I am not comparing the Commodore to the Terracan but for what I plan to do in the future the Terracan will be just fine.
Time for another homebrew and yes, I am a definite Terracan fan.
Cheers
The Bigfella
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Follow Up By: wenabri - Thursday, Mar 17, 2005 at 18:38

Thursday, Mar 17, 2005 at 18:38
Hi Mark,
I have a daughter in Melbourne and we are going to drive to see her from central qld when we get the new terry, will let you know how it went.
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Reply By: Norles - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 23:49

Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 23:49
Hi Wenabri
We have had our V6 Terracan GL since December. The was a diesel "just" available, but for our needs the petrol suits us fine. I traded my VT Commodore as we tow a 16' caravan, and I felt the Commodore was being punished. The Terracan makes a great tow vehicle, I guess two tonne plus helps, and I feel more relaxed when towing with it. Like a lot of 4WDers, we won't be doing much (if any) off road work.
I had my heart set on a Kia Sorento, which I still think is a better looking vehicle, but my wife didn't feel comfortable test driving one.
I now think the Terracan is the best vehicle I've owned, the finish, ride and equipment levels are fantastic. If I was going to tow a larger van I would probably get the suspension upgraded, but for now it's ok.
Ignore the knockers, they have their heads buried in the sand!
You won't be sorry.
Norm
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Follow Up By: wenabri - Thursday, Mar 17, 2005 at 18:32

Thursday, Mar 17, 2005 at 18:32
thanks norm,
I have been convined, a terracan it is. when I have had it a while i will get back to you
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