Holland Track, information required please
Submitted: Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 17:35
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greydemon
I am thinking of taking a trip with a friend (2 families) up the
Holland Track from
Broomehill to Calgoorlie in April. has anyone been there recently? It looks fairly easy from the trip notes, I am interested to find out if there are any tricky bits to make the driving interesting, and are the views/historical bits enough to keep the families keen?
Also, I note that 'Captain' posted a comment in February which refered to some damage suffered on the
Holland Track. I am intending to take an off road camper trailer (Cavalier type) ...is there anything I should know, like 'don't' perhaps. I have taken this trailer to
Mitchell Falls without difficulty to give you an idea of it's capabilities - corrugations are not an issue but big wash aways might be.
I had considered taking my
well behaved four legged friend but note that there are nature
reserves along the way, if they are small and are just 'drive through' that is OK, but if they are large and worth a stop I'll leave him at
home as the wildlife is more important (and he loves the guy at the kennels anyway.)
thanks
Greydemon
Reply By: slyonnet - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 18:12
Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 18:12
Hi Greydemon,
I did the trip from
Hyden to
Coolgardie last
Easter. There had been lost of rain the previous day and most of the track was muddy. We did not encounter too many difficulties anyhow (we were in the Defender of my wife's uncle) and if you do it when it is dry it should present no problem at all. All the books about the track tell you not to attempt after the rain but I think it is to detter novice at 4wdriving who could damage the track.
If you plan to do the trip during the
Easter long week-end then be prepared to see plenty of cars. We took the right decision and left a day ahead of the long weekend so we did not see too many vehicles. But I know from reading the trip report of the Mitsubishi 4wd club that they went with a number of vehicles and passed plenty more in both directions. They also had very bad weather as stroms came by on the Saturday night.
Along the way you have plenty of
rock formations and also some water holes worth seeing and some make a
good campsite.
Regarding camper trailer, I think one of the guy from the Mitsubishi club had one and had to struggle a bit more in the muddy parts and when coming accross oncoming traffic on the narrowest section of the track, but that's to be expected with a trailer. I have heard of people taking normal cars with caravans or boats their (not that I agree with the first one or that there is any
lake there anyway?!?!), so if the weather is good you should not have any problem.
I don't know about the nature
reserves.
It is a good trip if you want to get out of the city but like I said before choose your time wisely if you want to avoid the crowd.
Ring the
ranger or
police station at
Hyden before departing to
check the track is open. I remember they had to close it earlier this summer because of a fire but they might do so as
well if it is too wet.
Have a good and safe trip,
Sly.
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Follow Up By: greydemon - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 18:23
Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 18:23
Thanks Sly,
No, I always stay at
home over
Easter as it is usually the best place to get away from everyone - they have all gone somewhere else!
I am intending to go during school holidays though but as they are spread over a couple of weeks the traffic on the track shouldn't be as heavy as at
Easter.
I take it that your wife doesn't have an Aunt, when I was looking for my Land Rover the salesman told me that with nearly all couples that come in the husband wants a Defender, the wife wants a Discovery, and like all those couples, and unlike your Uncle - I drove out in a Discovery!
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Follow Up By: slyonnet - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 18:49
Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 18:49
No he's got a wife, but she refuses to drive the beast. Instead she drives her own comodore. He bought the vehicle a while back when he was actually doing 4wd tours to
the pinnacles and down South, so it was never meant to be their normal car.
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 13:20
Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 13:20
Sly said...“All the books about the track tell you not to attempt after the rain but I think it is to detter (sic) novice at 4wdriving who could damage the track".
I think you will find that the recommendation not to attempt the track went wet applies to all people as the damage done by a person experienced at leaving ruts on a wet track is likely to be the same as those created by a novice rut maker. It could even be argued that a person with experience would do more damage as they would persist and get further thereby doing more damage than a novice who may think better and turn around or not attempt it in the first instance. It is illegal to drive on some “outback” roads when they have been officially closed due to rain (because you will leave ruts) – there are no exemptions for those who may think they have more experience than others…because they will still leave ruts.
Cheers
Greg
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Follow Up By: slyonnet - Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 14:18
Wednesday, Mar 16, 2005 at 14:18
Explorer, please don't put words in my mouth.
Just to clarify, what I meant was that novice at 4wdriving will have no idea of the extent of the damage they could do to the track and the fact that there is mud will not make all novices turn around. Of course some will, but I can tell you that some will see it as a challenge for their new vehicle and have as much fun as they can fun as they can trying to get through and maybe not so much fun trying to get out of trouble when it is too late. Having said that, it is true also that an experience 4wdriver can make ruts on a wet track but then he doesn't care about the others, does he. That's unfortunate but some people are like that and wether you write some advice in books or not will not stop them since they don't car in the first place.
We did the track when it was wet and were actually worried of this advice about not trying it when wet. We decided to try and see. If it was looking like too much trouble and likely to be damageable to the vehicle or the track to turn around. We did not create any major rut as we were extra cautious of what we were doing and being aware of the consequences.
Furthermore there is no
sign forbidding access to the track when wet and the road was certainly not closed if not we would not have attempted it.
So to conclude, the reason I wrote that line was to actually point out that the track is not necessarily impassable when wet (in case Greydemon cancel his trip if he did not know better). Maybe I should have also point out that it is recommended to be carefull not to damage the track, but I thought it was obvious for people on this
forum. And again, the people who will leave ruts don't care in the first place so what does it matter if I wrote it or not.
rgds,
Sly.
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:20
Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 19:20
Hi greydemon,
The track itself is very easy, capable of being done in 2WD the whole way (if no rain for a while). However, it can get very muddy in sections if there has been recent rain. Taking a Cavailer camper will be fine. There is the odd section when you have to snake carefully between the trees, but overall you should have no problems.
However, do NOT take an offroad caravan done this track! In
places it is simply too twisty and overgrown with trees on the side of the track for anything longer/higher than a camper trailer. A Jayco Hawk that was with me also suffered minor damage. These types of trailers are simply too long in the wheelbase and one cannot snake around the trees when required.
But a trailer based camper (Cavailier etc...) has a short enough wheel base plus has hard sides for the occasional tree branch sticking out. As for washouts, there are a few but my van was fine with them, a Cavalier will handle these easily. Take your Cavalier and enjoy!!!
Cheers
Captain
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Follow Up By: greydemon - Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:26
Tuesday, Mar 15, 2005 at 22:26
Thanks Captain, advice much appreciated.
To do as much damage as you did I will have to write off the whole trailer!
Greydemon
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