Cooper Discoverer A/T vs Discoverer S/T
Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002 at 00:00
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Savvas
Hi all .... Is anyone able to shed some light on why one would pick a Cooper Discoverer A/T over a Cooper Discoverer S/T, or vice versa? They seem to be an overlap in Cooper's product range.
Reply By: Ashley - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002 at 00:00
Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002 at 00:00
Savvas,
Go to the website and
check both tyres out, they are chalk and cheese, totally different. I run a set of LT285/75R16 SureTracs on my 80 series petrol (LT of course stands for Light Truck these are optional and you will have to ask for them) I would spend about 90% of the time on the black stuff but could not be bothered with changing tyres every time i wanted to go bush.
SureTracs are slightly noisier than BF All Terrains but not as bad as BF Mud's, they handle excellent on the road wet or dry and are outright weapons on dirt. Cooper A/T's would be quieter it depends what your poison is but with 13mm tread depth and 80,000km warranty you could'nt go wrong with either.
Cheers Ash
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Reply By: Pluto - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002 at 00:00
Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002 at 00:00
One difference that was pointed out to me was the difference in the chip resistance in the compound. A recent trip through the
Pilbara clearly demonstrated that point, when I compared tyre damage on vehicles at several
camp sites.
The chunky tread on the S/Ts are quite noisy, but after that trip, I am happy to have them on my vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Mikeys - Thursday, Oct 17, 2002 at 00:00
Thursday, Oct 17, 2002 at 00:00
Pluto, I assume you are saying that the ST compound is more chip-resistant than the A/T. I have set of A/T's and my only real criticism is the way they have chipped. They are nearly finished at 60,000k's. MikeyS
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Reply By: Slunnie - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002 at 00:00
Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002 at 00:00
From what I understand the AT has been designed as a tyre that is fundamentally a road based tyre, though reinforced and more aggressive than a highway tyre for occasional off road excursions. It really is designed for the typical recreational 4WDer. It has a tread design that is quiet, sipped for good wet bitumin grip and long wearing. The ST on the other hand was designed more for the outback resident. With so many of the roads being dirt and so much time being spent on these roads the tyre designed for these conditions were really the Mud terrain tyre. If you look at what the manufacturers state these are for 90%(ish) off road use. The problem being how do you define "off-road"? Is it Mud, dirt
trails,
rock hopping etc - and all of these are off road, though the requirements in the tyre needed for this is very different. The design of the Cooper ST, from what I understand, was to provide a good outback road tyre that on the otherhand performs better than the full mud on dirt roads. In reality, the ST could almost be a cross Mud terrain tyre and All Terrain tyre. It does has sips to improve wet weather grip, unlike the Mud tyres, and similar to All terrain tyres. It is also designed to hang together in rocky country. Regards Slunnie
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Reply By: LARRY - Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002 at 00:00
Wednesday, Oct 16, 2002 at 00:00
SORRY ABOUT THAT I was cut off ..../ most say the S,Ts are a bit noisey but I find them alright Have just done a trip to
vic high country and found them to be great. I do do a lot of sand driving as normal the tread will dig you down a lot faster than a highway pattern but if you let them down as you should they are great . have only done 5000 kms so far cooper back up there tyres for 80,000 kms so long as you rotate them every 10,000 kms I am very happy with cooper s,t . If you do mostly highway Iam sure all terain would be alright.
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