Dont be talked into Cheaper Tyres!!!
Submitted: Sunday, Apr 03, 2005 at 20:44
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Glenno
Got chatting to a bloke at the
Innamincka Pub who had just suffered 2 punctures in the space of 2hours. One staked in the sidewall so it was a writeoff. Lukcy he had two spares.
He was all ready to replace his ailing BFG AT's with another set of the same. Local tyre place managed to convince him that a set of Serengetti's (i think thats how they are spelt), were much better than the BFG's.
So if you do your research and have a plan on what you want to buy, dont get talked into something cheaper, unless you go away and do some research and determine they are infact better.
My coopers have done 40K in total and close to 30K outside of Metro and they are still
puncture free (touch wood). So be wary of brands you havent heard before!
Cheers,
Glenno.
Reply By: Member - Banjo (SA) - Sunday, Apr 03, 2005 at 21:17
Sunday, Apr 03, 2005 at 21:17
Fair enough Glenno, but a thought or two:
1. Might the bloke at
Innamincka have trouble selling BFG's at around $275 to $300, so he chooses not to stock them ?
2. I've yet to have a flat in a BFG (but I am an urban based, outback tripper I confess).
3. Is your suggestion that a BFG might be something "cheap" that someone could get talked into ?
The "bloke" has a right to be disappointed with his tyre lottery, but I'm not sure the advice he got is worth any more than we get here in the suburbs.
What do these Serengetti things cost ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Browny (VIC) - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 15:42
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 15:42
Banjo,
The way I read it is Glennos mate had BFG's and was happy with them but was talked in to buying a different brand when he was replacing them, I don't think anyone is having a go at BFG's
Maybe we should both read it again............:-)
Browny
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Follow Up By: Member - Banjo (SA) - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 16:01
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 16:01
You could be right Browny - journalism is an exacting trade ...... maybe the post could have been written better....."but Im know angle" !
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Reply By: Outbackstuff - Sunday, Apr 03, 2005 at 21:22
Sunday, Apr 03, 2005 at 21:22
We did the Cape last year and in our group - i was the only one that got any (two) punctures - both in river crossings - giving it a gut full as i was towing a camper trailer. I was impressed with the Coopers - although i was the only one in the group using them - i put the punctures to "S" happens. On both occasions it was a plug, reflate and lets go.
Tyres are one of those items every body has heard a different story on. It could be Serengettis are prone to side wall stackes like my coopers are prone to
puncture - maybe - maybe not - the imprortant thing is when you choose a tyre for for your 4WD and or Family
sedan, you take into account what you have read / heard about and
check out he walls, reviews, local (reliable non salesman) tyre man. and feel comfortable with what your puttiing on. You do get the choose. I also always look at what tyres people are running on there cars - everytime i see a 4wd - i look
check out as much as i can in regard to gear, setup, tyres, condition of Vehicle etc - a picture tells a 1000 words and if the car looks setup and for the rough Stuff and the tyres are gleaming from the show room - chances are they hace stacked up to some serious abuse.
Geoff
www.outdoorstuff.com.au
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Sunday, Apr 03, 2005 at 23:25
Sunday, Apr 03, 2005 at 23:25
Made me feel very comfortable when I dropped in on Russell Guest's in Fairfield just prior to Christmas last year. Being Christmas all the tag a long lead vehicles were in for service. Never seen so many 100 series LC's in one place.
All, without exception, run Coopers ST's or the new ST on one or two. I figure a bloke in a business like that might get a good deal on them, but I also figure with what he has at stake (oh another pun) both from a reliability, safety and reputation point of view he would seek a deal from someone else if they were in any way unhappy with them.
And my STs on my Courier being the light truck variety of carcass have more in the sidewalls than many of the competitors.
I'm happy. They're bloody quiet too.
Dave
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Follow Up By: Bob of KAOS - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 07:11
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 07:11
Dave,
on the other hand, they may destroy tyres so fast that having a long life tyre is not important. So a tax deductible tyre that wears out after 40,000 km is a good choice for a business operator, but not so good for Bob or Dave Average.
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 08:14
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 08:14
Oh go right ahead rain on my parade. I'd not thought of it like that.
You could have left me in my own little happy bubble...
Gee thanks
Dave
PS They were on what were I think their staffs personal vehicles too, 2 sets ST's and a set of STT's from memory. I'm a bit happier.
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Reply By: Member - Tim - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 15:09
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 15:09
I had a set of BFGs (265/75/16) that had done 70k. They had been to the cape, out to Uluru, back via the Strzlecki, Fraser four times, various other beaches and 4wd parks and I never had a
puncture. However they started to get hard and I was no longer happy to trust my family to their wet weather handling. They were on the car for four years so cost me about $250 per year which I think is a pretty good investment. I have just replaced them with some of the new Dick Cepeck FCIIs in the same size and am looking forwards to those giving me just as good a run as we are planning a trip up to the gulf soon. They seem to ride a little softer than the BFGs but handle just as
well but they are a little more expensive. The BFGs have gone onto the camper trailer so I now have the same size wheels on everything.
All in all I don't think that tyres are very expensive when you work it out over their life. You will spend a lot more on fuel and other maintenance so why not get the ones you think will be the best rather than the best deal at the time?
Tim.
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Follow Up By: Werner - Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 23:28
Monday, Apr 04, 2005 at 23:28
Hi all, I bought some cheaper Khumo tyres for my 4runner, the tyres lasting about 40000km which was longer than any tyre I had on my Subaru previously (sidewall puctures were a main problem). My mechanic convinced me to switch to BFG AT's (not sure of profile) and so far, touch wood, 60000km trouble free even over the gibber rubbish which straddles the Qld/
SA border areas. Tread is getting down a bit now but I am quite happy with them. Cost was about $215 each.
Werner
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