Jackaroo L/range tank - 3.5 v6

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I am looking at a long range tank for the Jack. We have the upcoming simpson trip and need more fuel. Its either carry about 100L in jerry cans or put a new tank and carry about 40L. We would be carrying most of the jerry cans empty until the last stop before crossing.
Who has fitted a long range tank to their Jack, how low does it sit on the rear?

Anyadvise on good one or bad ones?

thanks

Crazie
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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:28

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:28
I am not trying to hijack your thread, but I am faced with exactly the same problem with my Terrano 2.
By doing the right thing (?), & leaving the camper trailer at Maree, I can't really carry enough Jerry cans to accommodate sufficient fuel & water.
An auxillary tank was quoted at around $1000.00, which is hard to justify for one desert crossing.
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:40

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:40
sure your not.... hahaha

From what i have read, it is cheaper to replace the main tank than put on an aux.

crazie
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Reply By: Redback - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:49

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:49
Hey Crazie have a look here they seem to have looked into it pretty well

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:51

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:51
thanks Baz

Was trying to get on that site, but kept stopping

ta

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Reply By: Mike - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 10:31

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 10:31
I had a 135l replacement tank and a 70l aux tank by 4wd systems in SA. I would not recommend their products. We have had quite a few problems with both the tanks and the fitting. Each time we had a problem, their a/sales service was fantastic, but that doesn't make the trip any better when you have to be trailered back to Oodnadatta from Pedirka, or half way across the GRR.

I now have a large magnet in the main tank to pick up all the rust and metal and I change the fuel filter every service. (the genuine filter is $85 from Holden dealers, the same filter is $15 at Repco)

As for having the tanks, they are marvellous, travel well and we haven't ever had a problem with ground clearance. I would recommend having the tanks.

Happy trails, Mike.
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:43

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:43
Hi Mike
Thanks for the heads up. Do not want any probs mid simpson

crazie
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Reply By: jackablue - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 10:31

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 10:31
Mines petrol, sits under the rear drivers side in front of the rear axle.
Bit of a pain to fill (slow).Know problem. But wouldn't be without it.

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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:44

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:44
Hi Jackablue

looks good mate, how big is it?

thanks for the idea
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Follow Up By: jackablue - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 14:17

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 14:17
60l long ranger
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Reply By: Diamond (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:15

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:15
gday crazy.
i just fitted a brown davies tank to our jack.
so far no probs at all.
there a bit of a pain to fit if you dont have a hoist.
paid just over $700
135 litre i think.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:44

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 12:44
G'day Jim

Thanks mate, that is what i am looking for. Will get one proced up

ta

Crazie
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Follow Up By: jackablue - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 16:51

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 16:51
Does that replace the original tank? If so how much lower does it sit.?
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Follow Up By: Diamond (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 17:42

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 17:42
it does replace the original tank but not not alter aproach/departure angles.
there a lot wider and higher than the original.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Glenn (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 18:25

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 18:25
And Adam, Diamond is a champ at installing them too. You supply the tank and the hoist, and I am sure you will have a multitude of helpers to assist in the install.

Cheers

PS....I have a Brown Davis tank on my cruiser and love it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 18:38

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 18:38
Excellent thanks for nominating Diamond Glenn, I have a hoist, just need a tank now and they will come .... hahaha
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 19:05

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 19:05
Adam In fear of being shouted down can I suggest that you do a forum search here on Brown Davis before you make any decision.

I think you will find it an interesting read and that the old story of you pay for what you get rings true with this product.

I have personally seen one of their tanks with weld splits on a vehicle in my 4wd club and been told of another in the club.

Their name is not held very high around the traps.

But do the search and have a good read.
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 14:24

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 14:24
Hi Adam

Hmmmmm Gonna cost you plenty. I have had LR tanks in other vehicles but still carried jerries for extra fuel. I still believe in carrying jerries as one can unload them from the vehicle if need be. The only problem with jerries is that they take up space inside the vehicle and one has to re-arrange the stuff to accommodate them.

If you decide to stick with jerries I have plenty(new, under 12 months old) here which you can borrow without going to the expense of getting new ones.
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 16:33

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 16:33
Hi Willem

thanks for the offer, i have plenty of new jerry cans, as we always take them to fraser. I was just trying see what was the best option

cheers mate

Adam
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Reply By: Willykj - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 17:10

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 17:10
Hi Crazie,

I have a V6 3.5L 1999 Jack and put on a Long Ranger aux tank with 60 litres capacity about 2001. Has been the best thing I have done to the Jack. I did a lot of research & was considering a replacement tank but was strongly advised not to go that way due to the additional weight on the rear & its vulnerability to damage. The original main tank is pretty well protected.

My 60 L aux tank sits under the drivers side rear & it has never been a problem with clearance. It has been to Kimberley/Pilbara/Part Simpson/Cape York (including full OTL) & I have never scraped it or anything.

The only thing it is a little slow to fill - just need patience. But even in cities save money by buying up fuel when prices are on the bottom of the cycle.

The Long Ranger is built in Newcastle & sold through ARB etc

Willy
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 18:39

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 18:39
Hey Willy

Where or how do you fill the aux tank?? why is it difficult??

thanks for your help

Crazie
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Follow Up By: jackablue - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 19:26

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 19:26
At the petrol station with the pump :-).

Seriously, you fill it in the same hole as the standard one. Once your standard tank is full it then starts to fill the Aux tank. Once the Aux tank is about half full it backs up a bit. But hey you don't go back to fill for so long.

Also it is a feeder tank to the standard. So it has to flow into that to be used. Just flick a switch and the pump will transfer it over. Usually about half will transfer automatically just with the movement of the 4by or due to the terrain. So you are really only pumping over approx 30ltrs.

When I looked at these I wanted some weight somewhere else other than the rear. Just remeber you are putting another 60+kgs on your 4by.

Cheers

Jackablue
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Reply By: Glenn (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 18:27

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 18:27
Adam,

Even if you do get a larger tank installed, I would still carry a couple of jerries just in case. Fill them in Coober Pedy, then start using them after you have filled up in Oodnadatta. The sooner they are emptied, the better.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 18:41

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 18:41
Come on Glenn,

thats what i said mate...... but thanks for the advise hahaha

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Follow Up By: Glenn (VIC) - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 18:46

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 18:46
aha my friend, I can't see where you said you would empty them quickly, mind you I am not wearing my reading glasses at the moment either.

Cheers
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Reply By: GOB & denny vic member - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 21:15

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2005 at 21:15
goodday all
crazie i have a long range automotive large aux tank had no problems they suplied and fitted i thought price was reasonable .i changed the petrol tank on the gq (lpg/petrol)to a decent size brown davis my missus reckons she learnt even more new words while i was fitting it some of the parts didnt fit had to make alter or whatever as i went along
although not there this year lra they had a display at wandin last yr
my personal opinion bloke at bd was surly and uncooperative last time there that was 1 reason why i went up the road a bit
steve
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Saturday, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:11

Saturday, Apr 16, 2005 at 12:11
yep the replacement units are heaps cheaper than the aux tanks, but they do hang lower at the back.

BUT since you have new raised coils and airbags, you can keep the bum high when full. The police jacks i used to work on had long ranger units fitted but they only had standard springs so they sat down a bit low at the back, didnt stop em though, those tanks got the absolutebleepe bashed out of them and stood up to it really well. I'm going to investigate options for an aux tank, using a small car tank (hyundai etc) as they are 'complete' pump, fill and vent lines etc. and cheap as from wreckers. Should be able to find a 45-50 litre unit that fits under drivers side ok, and will only have to knock up some mounts to suit.
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Follow Up By: jackablue - Saturday, Apr 16, 2005 at 16:10

Saturday, Apr 16, 2005 at 16:10
Brad I have already scraped the rear standard tank, wouldn't like to be putting on anything lower. I already have the lift too.

I think looking for a no specific tank would be a waist of time, the long ranger is shaped around everything & even has a tube through the middle for the brake cable.

Oh btw just filled up, light came on, 929kms around town driving except a trip at easter. 129ltrs.

Cheers

Jackablue
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Follow Up By: Member - Bradley- Sunday, Apr 17, 2005 at 09:52

Sunday, Apr 17, 2005 at 09:52
yeah mate i know the long ranger aux unit is nice but i could do a lot more with $1200 elsewhere. i am only thinking 40-45l for $200 or so.
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