Icomm HF Radio

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Does anyone have experience with the Icomm F7000 HF Radio & the AT 230 Automatic Tuning Antenna. Would be interested in any pros or cons.

Thanks, John
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Reply By: davidta - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:23

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:23
Hi John,

I have one in the Patrol at the moment. It is actually connected to a Barrett 910 Auto Tune antenna through an interface box (can also be connected to a Codan 9350).
The reason for this is that I found the Moonraker (AT230 I Think) was just too tall to put on the 4by. All these auto tuners are big but this one just wouldn't fit anywhere.

Aside from that, the radio itself is a mighty fine rig. I have an amateur radio licence & it is a perfect combination radio.

The radio has some fantastic features as found on the Codan NGT & some not found on any other radio that I know of.
It is also missing a couple of minor features found on the Barrett 950 as well.
I have had Barrett 550, Barrett 950, Codan 9323 & the ICOM F7000 over the years. They all have their good & bad points. I personally prefer the 950 & the F7000 over the others, just my opinion though.

Mine will be for sale very shortly if you are interested.

Cheers,

David
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Follow Up By: Member - John Q (QLD) - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:43

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:43
Hi David,

Thanks, I had been told the radio itself was great but the AT230 was not as good as the 910 or 9350, and was looking for further feedback. I'm going to talk to an Icomm distributor today about prices etc.
You can contact me at - taigo@bigpond.net.au - re the sale of your set.

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John
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Follow Up By: davidta - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:46

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:46
John,

I'll send you a personal email.

David
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:16

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:16
Interesting radio. Is it Type Approved for VKS / Flying Doctor? Not that I mind either way but I know there are some on here who see the use of Amateur sets on those frequencies as a hanging offence :)

Mike Harding

PS. I note versions of this rig sold overseas have increased output power - 125W.

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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:53

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 09:53
It's marketed as a land mobile radio so I assume it would be approved Mike, $2619 from Prestige with no antenna or tuner.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:15

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:15
Doesn't look like it would meet Type Approval?
http://www.icom.net.au/2000_web/index2.html

Looks like it could be a nice combined VKS / Amateur set though.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: davidta - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:41

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:41
Hi Guys,

It is most definately type approved.

Cheers,

David
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:46

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:46
Mike a real amateur HF rig has continuous tuning with a big fat VFO knob, this thing has 400 channels.
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Follow Up By: davidta - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 13:12

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 13:12
Mad Dog,

You press two buttons & the unit goes into full VFO mode with selectable tuning steps to 1Hz. When modified, it will transeive wherever the vfo is tuned to.
When you want to go back to "land mobile' mode, it works just like a 400 channel Barrett or Codan.
Like I said before, a very nifty radio.

David
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 17:38

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 17:38
Well in that case it does sound nifty, got me thinking about my next upgrade. Whatya think Mike, buy two for a bigger discount :) no telcall feature that I could see or did I miss it. I see there's one on ebay at the moment. Thanks David
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Follow Up By: Michael Carey - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 17:54

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 17:54
There is a telcall feature, I'm not sure if it is 100% compatible with the more popular systems. Icom make a point in the manual the the GPS position call, GPS beacon call, Page call and Status call use Icom original commands and may not be compatible with other brands.
Of course, this could be fixed with a simple firmware upgrade should Icom feel the need...and pressure from users....
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 17:55

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 17:55
>Whatya think Mike, buy two for a bigger discount :)

Get thee behind me Satan!

Mike Harding :)

PS. Dunno - might give it some thought.
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Follow Up By: davidta - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 18:34

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 18:34
It does have Telcall & it does work.
There is no feature this radio does not have that a Barrett for example does have, as far as normal use is concerned.
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Reply By: Michael Carey - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 13:03

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 13:03
I have an IC-F7000 and found it to be an excellent radio. I have been a long time Icom fan and have many Icom radios, several now installed in my new (11/04) Hilux. I mainly use it on the amateur bands but I am a member of VKS737.
The only thing that I don't like about the Icom, and it's common across many Icom radios, is the need to go into a 'set' menu to change simple things.
For instance, there are three scan groups, but you need to go into the initial setup menu to change them. This means switching the radio off, holding down the OK button while switching on, navigating around through the menus to find the scan group setting, then another switch off and on finishes off the change..
Far too messy for most people. Would have been much better to have a short press of the scan key to stop/start scan and a long press to allow you to select the scan group.
I use an Icom AT-120 tuner with my set and a long 9' whip antenna, although I have heard that you can use an older 8558 codan antenna in place of the moonraker one.
Other things I don't like is the flimsy mini-din plug for the control head and the weird never-seen-one-before connector for the antenna control. Otherwise I am very impressed with the build quality.
Regards,
Michael.
P.S. You can see some pictures of my radio installation here :-
http://www.users.on.net/~michaelcarey/pics/hilux_install/
I should update them soon as things have progressed a little bit now....
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 19:29

Friday, Apr 15, 2005 at 19:29
Mike nice neat installation. Well done.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Skinny- Friday, Apr 22, 2005 at 16:53

Friday, Apr 22, 2005 at 16:53
Nice install Mike, underbonnet looks complicated. What are all the relays for. I am thinking of buying an ICf7000 and thought of self install, but your set up looks complicated , is it?

Skinny
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Follow Up By: Michael Carey - Friday, Apr 22, 2005 at 17:55

Friday, Apr 22, 2005 at 17:55
There are three relays that are part of my ARB headlamp loom, these are the ones nearest the brake master cylinder.
I have a relay for each driving light, a relay for the air-horn compressor, plus a spare, maybe for some fog lamps later on. These have nothing to do with the HF installation!
My DC setup has changed a little since the photos. The terminal blocks near the firewall have been moved to make room for a Redarc smart solenoid.
Installing any HF can be a challenge. Finding room in a modern 4x4 can be a bit of a nightmare. But if you are handy and have some imagination, you should be able to install it yourself. Things to note are the DC power run has to be nice and thick to prevent voltage drops on peak power demand. When mounting the HF antenna (whatever type you get) make sure it is well earthed to the bracket and then to the vehicle. The main transceiver needs good air flow, don't jam it in nice and tight, although it only gets REAL hot after a long chat session or multiple selcalls. Plus don't forget to earth the transceiver if at all possible!
Wherever you purchase it from should be able to give you pointers on installation in your vehicle...
Regards,
Michael.

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