NSW laws changing on lift kits -2in max

Submitted: Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 16:36
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Basically, Maximum lift on ANY vehicle newer than 84-85(to be confirmed) will be limited to 50mm, thats body lift AND suspension it will be 2in max....

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Reply By: Exploder - Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 17:30

Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 17:30
Do not live in NSW but. Will the insurance company’s still insure you if it is over that limit. If so then you r still ok as long as the lift is not ridiculously obvious like 5 inch lift + 35-inch tyres and 2 inch of body lift, half the cop’s probably wouldn’t know

What about engineer’s certificates?

Sorry couldn’t access the site.

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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:10

Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:10
Insurance Co's generally exclude anything if it doesnt comply with the applicable RTA legislation, or is illegal. eg: drink driving, an unroadworthy car, illegal mods etc.

You'll generally only find their final ruling out after you've had a crash. If you've got all the mods specified on policy and have it OK'd by the company, still check that the mods are legal with the RTA as its stated in standard cover guidelines that a vehicle used in illegal/unroadworthy condition can void a policy and wipe out any claim against it.

I couldnt get the site either, but im keen to find if a valid engineers cert will be adequate.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:32

Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:32
Dont understand why people cant get in, just take 10 sec's to register.

anyway heres a few points out of the threads.
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Basically:
1. Maximum lift on ANY vehicle newer than 84-85(to be confirmed) will be limited to 50mm, thats body lift AND suspension. So a hilux with 50mm body blocks AND 50mm spring lift will be illegal!! All those 4 inch lifted Cruisers and Patrols will also be illegal.
2. Extended shackles are TOTALLY illegal (this has been Bulletin'd already)
3. Wheel tracks greater than 25mm from original manufacturers wheel track will be illegal.(already bulletined, but mentioned again)
4. Maximum tyre diameter cannot exceed the manufacturers Placard sizes (currently Bulletined) http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi_dl1.html

All vehicles that dont comply to this will be illegal, un roadworthy, u can be fined by Police, and they will be enforcing as well!
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I was told about something like this 12 months ago when i had my car engineered.
There was plans to change the rules so that insted of going to one engineer to get certified, motor, suspenstion, body, seat and tyre changes, you would need to go to a engineer for each and every modiforcation. There for if you had 5 mods for that car to be engineered you would need to go to 5 different engineers classified for that perticular mod, and an engineer would only be given classifacation for a single mod.
This is to deter people from modifying vehicles as the price per appointment would be approx $1000- $1500 and most people would be detered from doing too many mods possibly at once or at all because of costs.
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this is from another forum

I emailed an engineer the other day in regards to modifying trucks and what not in NSW. To which he gave me an interesting response about body lifts in NSW. Seeing as this is always debated as to whether it's legal or not etc.

Part of the email:

Quote:Please note that the NSW RTA is currently in the process of issuing an instruction on body lifts on 4 x 4 vehicles. This will impact on the ability to certify this mod in NSW.

To this I asked:

Quote:The Instruction on body lifts you speak of; Is this going to make it "harder" or illegal for body lifts? Or is it just because there are previously no guidelines in place perhaps?

To which the response was:

Quote:Hi Bryan,

It would appear from communication with the RTA that a 2" or 50mm body lift will be OK. Bearing in mind that it will depend on vehicle build date due to Australia Design Rule compliance. Also the 50mm lift may inpact on brake hose length throughout suspension travel., steering intermediate shaft coupling etc.

The bulletin is yet to be released BUT there are issues as mentioned above and then it goes onto roll over testing due to increased height of the centre of gravity, spring over kits etc etc.
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 10:04

Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 10:04
Couldnt get in either trucky....no topic there.... im a member too.....
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 11:24

Saturday, Apr 30, 2005 at 11:24
Andrew..
Forum: General 4x4 Tech/Discussion
Subject: New RTA Roadworthy Bulletin
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Reply By: Max - Sydney - Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:04

Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:04
That'll create a problem for Australian 4WD Monthly - a vehicle seems to have to have a 4" lift to get in the magazine!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 02, 2005 at 11:43

Monday, May 02, 2005 at 11:43
people still buy that ?
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Follow Up By: Max - Sydney - Monday, May 02, 2005 at 12:38

Monday, May 02, 2005 at 12:38
KNow what you mean! Seems to have a few readers by the number of advertisers and pages.

Am swapping to a caravan magazine when subs runs out. Getting old.
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Reply By: Lone Wolf - Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:22

Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:22
Going to be a very costly excersise...... the removal of all those speed humps...... especially all the ones in Coles car parks.

Its probably to make it easier for the parking nazi's to stick stuff on your window.

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:30

Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 18:30
Definitely! with my 9" lift (6" springs 3" body) they cant REACH my wipers to put the infringement notices under them ....... mwahahahahaha
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 20:56

Friday, Apr 29, 2005 at 20:56
I was told about this coming by my engineer too a while back, pretty easy to enforce too as when manufacturers submit a vehicle for rego/ADR compliance the RTA/DOTARS are given basic specifications for each and every vehicle and model of that vehicle.
One of the specs that are submitted is the distance from the bottom lip of the mudguard above the centre of the wheel to the tyre, if this varies by more than 50mm from the standard spec then you are in trouble.
Goes both ways up or down so it will work just as well with the ricers
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