different diff ratios
Submitted: Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 10:00
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Terryfied
Can a 4wd operate with different ratios in the frony and rear diffs? I say no however my stubborn son wants to use his forerunner with the odd diffs.My major concern is he is not the one paying for any damage.
Terry
Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 10:24
Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 10:24
Terry, if he had a diff between the front and rear axles it would be a means of balancing torque. Having a locked front/rear connections in the simplest transfer cases like a Hilux a recipe for trouble. When engaged as 4wd on a hard surface, instant wind up of transmission, diffs front and rear as soon as you progress in any gear. Immediate wear of tyres and gear trains, lower available power as one diff either tries to overtake the other or pull the chassis apart.
Is he intending to have the numerically higher one at the front or the rear? I'd be terrified too......
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Reply By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 10:51
Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 10:51
Up to a couple of percent difference is OK. As an example the old 1980-1983 Subarus had a 3.88 front and a 3.9 rear. You can realistically get this effect by having a heavily loaded vehicle in 4WD anyway.
As for running (say) 3.9's and 4.1's (5%) that might be a bit of an ask on hard surfaces but OK on loose surfaces. Any more of a difference than that is asking for some peculiar and potentially dangerous handling
As advised above, make sure the front is numerically lower than the rear (rotates more per driveshaft rpm =>forced understeer), otherwise it would be a handful, and very dangerous particularly down slopes.
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Reply By: Savvas - Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 13:07
Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 13:07
Hi Terry,
In a part time 4WD, it's a very bad idea.
Tell him he can go ahead with it, but he should also get a spare drivetrain before he starts. It won't be long before he's swapping out broken bits.
What is it he wants to achieve by doing this anyway? I can't possibly see why he would want one set of wheels spinning at a different rate to the other.
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Follow Up By: Terryfied - Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 21:39
Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 21:39
Savvas,he is just too lazy to put the other diff in .Maybe it has to do with the fact he/I do not want to remove the cv joints,the last time I did cvs was on a 1974 Austin 1800 about that many years ago.
Terry
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 22:21
Sunday, May 08, 2005 at 22:21
Changing a Blown CV is the issue? it would be easier to change a CV than a diff.... by a long shot
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