rear wheel carrier blocking brake/rear lights

Submitted: Monday, May 09, 2005 at 14:14
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was having a good look at a rear dual-wheel carrier in a 4wd mag on the weekend.. and noticed that due to the size of the wheels, the brake/rear lights on either side of the car are about 80% blocked!
which poses the question > is it in someway illegal to not have a certain % of your 'indicator' lights showing ???
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 09, 2005 at 14:18

Monday, May 09, 2005 at 14:18
Yes, you are supposed to have the lights clear - but most get away with it, by having lights ON or IN the rear bar itself, instead of the car lights..

You will also hear of the hassles they are having getting the thing legal in other aspects with lights.
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Reply By: robak (QLD) - Monday, May 09, 2005 at 14:26

Monday, May 09, 2005 at 14:26
When my car was imported, to get a complience plate the spare wheel had to me moved to the centre. Originally it was about 10cm to the left of centre. Nowhere near the rear lights. I think you must be able to see the rear lights not only from directly behind the car but from a certain angle as well.

R.
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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Monday, May 09, 2005 at 14:54

Monday, May 09, 2005 at 14:54
That is true- its the reason alot of manufacturers have gone for side/wing indicators as well.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, May 09, 2005 at 15:33

Monday, May 09, 2005 at 15:33
You're dead right....it's all in the angle.

It's VERY scientific......

The bloke at the ADR office who is in charge of the department for that particular week has the job of determining what the angle of sight is going to be (but only for HIS week in charge). The formula is top secret, but I have managed to crack it.

The bloke in charge takes his own age, adds that of his "significant other" and his grandmother on his father's side. He divides the sum of those 3 numbers by the combined ages of his offspring and that becomes the angle that the tail-lights and indicators must be visible from.

Of course, this explains why the angle changes week to week, because the bloke in charge changes and also, everytime one of the people involved has a birthday, the whole thing has to be re-calculated.

Well, that's what I've heard anyway....(at first I didn't believe it, but then I remembered we are talking about a government department, so anything is possible).hahaha
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 09, 2005 at 21:14

Monday, May 09, 2005 at 21:14
45 Degrees isnt it?
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Reply By: GOB & denny vic member - Monday, May 09, 2005 at 16:58

Monday, May 09, 2005 at 16:58
goodday roachie
sounds a lot like the way banks determine their interest (or lack of ) rates

steve lolololol
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, May 09, 2005 at 17:05

Monday, May 09, 2005 at 17:05
Oh chit,,,,,now I'm gunna be in BIG trouble; I've let the secret of interest rate calculations out of the bag......
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Reply By: Tuco - Monday, May 09, 2005 at 19:38

Monday, May 09, 2005 at 19:38
I'm led to believe that the ADR's specify that the lights must be visible from 45 degrees above, left and right as well as directly behind.

This is why Australian delivered Patrols, Pajeros, Jackaroos, Troopies all have the tail lights operating in pathetic bumper add-ons while the same models delivered elsewhere on the planet use the big fancy original body fitted lights.

Another vehicle to suffer because of this Australian rule was the 80 series Land Cruiser - which wasn't available with the factory mounted rear spare that is available elsewhere.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bernard - Monday, May 09, 2005 at 20:26

Monday, May 09, 2005 at 20:26
You're quite right. But why not just add the bumper lights and leave the others operative also ... especially as (in the case of the Pajero) you can't get the "originals" fitted up properly.

Oh well! Guess bureaucrats have to have something to keep them amused.
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