Rear Wheel Carrier

Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00
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Hoping some one can advise a good quality rear wheel carrier to suit an 80 series wagon, I intend to keep one spare in the original position and have a second, Ive had a look around myself and there seems to be a wide range and a large variation in price, any advice will be appreciated.
Thanks, Tony
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Reply By: Peter S - Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00
Try Kaymar

I have fitted one recently and this is a very well made product. A bit expensive but you pay for wat you get especially when rough roads etc are involved.
The thing i like is it is pivioted on a tapered bearing which is servicable etc.
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00
As you say, a BIT expensive. I was nearly send into cardiac arrest when I priced one...

I priced one for the GQ, and it was around $1800 for dual wheel carrier. Which is around the theft level of a bank...

I think that you could have one made up for 1/2 that price!
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Follow Up By: Ashley - Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00
Tony I agree with Peter, you do get what you pay for we have a Kaymar unit fitted to our 80 with Hi-Lift jack mount, work light, HF aerial bracket.
Total was around $1430 (fitted) from memory, but spent the money and buy a decent unit like the ones from Opposite Lock or Kaymar.
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Follow Up By: Janset - Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00
Hi all.
Let me add my little bit relating to Kaymar and then form your own opinion.

I had a double hinge type fitted to the Troopie some years ago, and yes even then I thought the price was expensive. I also ordered a spare wheel carrier that fits the left side, (note if you intend to use a 2 spare wheel system you must order your right carrier with that in mind as it is a narrower version to accommodate the left carrier).

I ordered the left wheel carrier for 2 reasons, firstly to off set the heavy furniture on the right inside of the troopie and secondly, as my model did not have a long range tank fitted behind the axle,(It now has a 140 litre after market tank) but that is where Toyota put my spare, not on the back door.

Originally because I did not have a second tank it was my intention to build a metal box/come 3 jerry can holder onto the right pivot point.

To do this I needed some parts, so I wrote a nice letter to Kaymar explaining in detail exactly what I intended to do and ask them nicely would they please supply parts requested adding that I realise that some may not be usual parts sold to the public.

The parts that I required were the bearing carrier, the locking leaver and receiver for the right side and the heavy metal plate that the lever handle is attached to.

Two weeks later I received in the mail from Kaymar, a photocopy of a pamphlet, no letter of explanation, not even a how do you do. On that pamphlet was a picture of a single type jerry can holder which had been circled with a texture colour. The exact price I now do not remember but it was enough to make me almost choke. Go to you local 4WD outlet and ask for your self and you will see.

So much for after sales customer service.

I though I would try another tack.

I have a good relationship with my local 4WD outlet and thought I would ask his help, maybe because they have more buying power and I may have a win, very devious I thought. :)

I saw my mate a few days later only to hear that he had been asked by Kaymar if I was the guy who tried to get the parts a few weeks ago.

I was told that they used words to the effect, "what is he trying to do, go into business for himself?"

My quick thinking mate covered by saying, "No, my guy reversed into a tree and damaged his setup and just wants to get it to work again".

Came the reply, "well tell him to send a photo of the damage and then we will decide what he requires", but get this, in the mean time they were prepared to send him the receiver that bolts onto the bumper. As it turned out it was for the wrong side anyway!

My friend accepted that and he had it on hand. From memory it cost $35. I managed to use this but I had to fit it upside down.

So Mr Kaymar, our honey moon has ended. I took the bull by the horns.

I made a tracing of the handle shape and took it to my friend's engineering shop where he cut it out with a plasma machine. He also turned out a bearing carrier and bent the heavy metal bracket with his big press. (I have since learned that Trailer Parts also carries the bearing carriers and are quite reasonably priced).

A short trip the the local scrap metal dealer and all the metal was on hand. A good weekends work and the carrier was finished. The box I had made up at the local sheet metal shop.

This carrier I so designed that the box to hold the 3 jerry cans side by side can be removed by undoing 3 large bolts and using the same bolts I can bolt on the support arm to carry the second spare wheel. (Remember I now have the second tank where the spare wheel used to live).

When finished I had it powder-coated. The job turned out so successful that I defy anyone to tell the difference, and guess what? The entire cost of me making it cost less than half of the price Kaymar was asking for their overpriced single jerry can holder.

Mine was a one off and they mass produce it, so what does that say about their prices?.

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Follow Up By: Truckster - Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00
Jansets story reminds me of the club (Nissan Club) magazine editor or driver training bloke, cant remember now, bought a new GU, and went to Kaymar and was going to order the works... Hey if you can afford a new 4.2 GU, you can afford the extras!

He asked if there was a club discount, the guy laughed and said if you dont like it go elsewhere... Real attitude... Not needed, the guy was spending over $2000 for ~$500 of metal bent and welded (thats how I see it)...

He did. This is only one story, could have been a bad day, there are others who have had good stories, but I sort of got the same story when I called on the phone asking for club discount.
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Follow Up By: Janset - Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00
Yeah Truckster.

If I wanted you steal their design I am damn sure I would not have told them. Too bad about their demigod attitude as the product is good, far too over priced, but good :)

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Reply By: Allyn (member) - Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00
Opposite Lock one has gas strut and rear taillight whereas others do not. No drama's with mine at all but initial cost a little more. You will appreciate gas strut on a windy day or incline. Saves belting little kids around with your spare wheel.
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00
I like the Opposite Lock on which I have fitted to my 100 series. It works well though on some slopes the gas strut is not stong enough to hold it open and you have to either hold it or prop it open. I think that they should supply a pin or something to hold it open when the strut is not strong enough. The light is great because the original lights are still used which looks better than the Kaymar option of two lights on the bumper.
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Reply By: Truckster - Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00
Heres another option
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00
Dear Tony,

If you're setting yourself up to carry 2 spares, then it would appear you are intending to do some serious travelling in very remote and possibly offroad areas. I'm wondering why you are happy then to leave the spare wheel in its original position (under the body) as this is not at all a good position for the spare on an offroad vehicle.

A few things to consider:
- if you get a flat and are on uneven ground, getting that spare out from under the body is very tricky!
- if you are going places where a 2nd spare is a good precaution then extra fuel load would also be likely. The spare wheel bay on the 80 series is the common placement of the long range 2nd tank.
- the spare wheel carried under the body of the car greatly lowers your vehicle's departure angle, ie. will scrape over rocks and gullies and will drag like an anchor in the sand.
- leaving a wheel under the body of the car leaves it open to heavy soiling and would make a wheel replacement job very untidy! In fact, I've seen one so chocked up with loose stones and dirt that the mechanism to unwind the wheel so that it dropped down failed, making a seemingly simple job near impossible!
- the ideal way to carry 2 spare wheels on an 80 series is using a double wheel carrier. But unfortunately, costly.

Sorry to challenge your thinking but even if you couldn't afford the double carrier (ditto ourselves) we would still advise getting that spare out from under the body. We actually carry spare rubber, not a second wheel and put this rubber on the roof rack. But if we had the double wheel carrier we would and for our CSR trip next year we will be preparing this way.
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Reply By: Allyn (member) - Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00

Tuesday, Nov 05, 2002 at 01:00
I regret not buying the double but it was close to 2 grand and required a suspension upgrade. I have since done this but it wasn't an option back then due to dollars and their availabilty (or lack of).
The spare underneath is also prone to damage as well as all points that Michelle has pointed out.
Andrew raised a good point with the Opposite Lock gas strut, as a pin would be sensational. I have damaged my door several times and will probably find something for that soon enough.
4WD systems make a carrier for $500+ but I have no idea what it's like. Probably not as polished as OL one but budget is the relevant key as always isn't it ?
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