Firestone Coilrite Air Bags

Submitted: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 18:03
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Hi
Has anyone fitted the Firestone coilrites to a GU Patrol Wagon. I just received my kit from the States and I have a few questions.
1. Does the air inlet go to the top of the coil spring?
2. Do you need to use the plastic spacer for standard springs?
3. Do you need to completely remove the coil spring to fit the bag? The instructions indicate no.
4. Do you need the exhaust pipe guard

The kit # is CR 4129. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Mark
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Reply By: rors101 - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 18:13

Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 18:13
Cant help with the above but am intersested in buying some myself. What did you pay and from where?
Thanks
Rors
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 19:24

Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 19:24
www.trucksprings.com & paid $148.00AUD including delivery, received them inside 4 days, quicker than getting them from Melbourne!
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Follow Up By: Hardo - Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 07:32

Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 07:32
rors101
Same as Shaker, final price depends on exchange rate at time of purchase though. Mine estimated at $160.00AUD. They are very easy to deal with and shipment for me was about a week.
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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 19:18

Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 19:18
Funnily enough I fitted a set to Terrano 2 today, I found the instructions to be very easy to follow with clear diagrams.
If the instructions say you don't need to remove the coils, why would you question it? Common sense would say that if the tubing passes close to the exhaust you would use the thermal shield, if it doesn't you wouldn't.
In regard to the 'spacer' .... read the instructions, it isn't a spacer!
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Reply By: locallaw - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 20:07

Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 20:07
Gidday,If they are the same as the L/C the air goes in the top and the spacers go under the air bag once inside the spring at the lower spring mount.Just squeeze all the air out of the bag and push thru the spring.Follow the instructions they are simple.
Seeya Locallaw
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 22:13

Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 22:13
STEP 3D - INSTALL THE SUPPORTS

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 22:17

Wednesday, May 11, 2005 at 22:17
Dunno how that happened ^^^^^^^^

As I was saying.................
STEP 3D - INSTALL THE SUPPORTS

Push the air spring to the bottom of the coil spring and insert the 'protector' between the air spring and the top spring seat ..... see figure D

Figure D clearly shows the protector on top of the air spring!
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Follow Up By: Hardo - Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 07:30

Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 07:30
Shaker
My instructions donn't have a step 3D as you indicate. Mine is in step 4 but there are 3 different options with it unclear which one is for the GU Patrol.
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Reply By: Member - Woodsy - Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 07:18

Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 07:18
Hi Hardo,

I fitted CR-4219 Coil Rites to my 4.8P auto in August 2002 so the installation details are hazy but from what I can remember:
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No, you can squeeze the bags through the coils
4. Don't remember a heat guard with my kit
5. I thought the instructions were pretty good
6. Very pleased with the Coil Rites.

Happy 4 wheeling

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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 13:54

Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 13:54
Hi Hardo,

I fiited the Firestones from truckspring to my 2003 GU. as for your questions;

1. The air inlet on the air bag faces down. You thread the airline through an existing central hole in the base of the coil loactor on the axle.

2. Yes, the plastic spacer goes centrally on the coil loactor on the axle base and the airline threads thru the hole in the middle of it. It's purpose is to "fold" the airbag into itself as the axle moves up and down, compressing the airbag (hope this explanation makes sense!). It is not a spacer to compensate for taller springs.

3. No need to remove the coil at all. But a word of advise, jack up the body (not the axle/wheel) and this opens up the coil spring, making it easier to thread the bag into the coil.

4. Yes, I simply cable tied the exhaust guard on, but had to make a few minor bends to sit neatly. This is actually very easy to do.

Also, spend plenty of time and use heaps of cable ties to make the airline installation nice and neat and protected from flying rocks. I cable tied mine mainly to the brake lines and then finished off putting the air line fittings inside the rear of the cabin. This way no-one can "adjust" them externally from the vehicle.

I took around an hour to install just the first bag and less than 10 minutes for the second. Its really an easy job once you have done it and figured it out. The longest bit is routing the airlines properly, that took me over an hour alone.

Hopefully this all makes sense. Just ask if you have any further questions or if you want some pics, post your email address.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: warthog - Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 17:57

Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 17:57
Hi Captain,
Sorry to jump in but I would also like to fit these to my 2000 gu wagon, however I have 3" lift coils in and am wondering if they will still fit. If you have any photos I would also like a look if possible, email is chrisandpenny@ozemail.com.au.
Cheers Chris.
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Follow Up By: Hardo - Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 19:08

Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 19:08
Captain
Thanks for the info. The instructions that I have indicate that for the Nissan Patrol use step 2B which follows.
STEP 2B INSTALLING THE AIR SPRING
Insert the flattened air spring into the coil spring
through the lowest opening with the push-to-connect
air inlet at the top of the coil spring as shown in
Figure "AB".
Did you fit the CR 4129 kit?
I can e-mail a copy of instructions if you wish.
I would like to see some photos of your installation, my e-mail is mharding@exemail.com.au

Thanks
Mark
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 21:17

Thursday, May 12, 2005 at 21:17
Hi Hardo,

My kit was the CR 4129 and I still have the original instructions, step 2B is wrong in that you need to install as figure AA with the inlet down ie. use step 2A. If you look at figure BB, this is the way it ends up.

I have emailed the photos to you, hopefully this makes it clear. You can clearly see that the air inlet faces down and uses the existing hole, as per figure BB. I did not have to drill any holes. If you want more photos, just ask.

Warthog - You will need to install a spacer to make up the extra length of your coils. I think you can buy a spacer, email trucksprings and say you want to use kit CR 4129 but need the spacer for a 3" lift. I have always found them very helpful.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: warthog - Friday, May 13, 2005 at 18:26

Friday, May 13, 2005 at 18:26
Hi Captain,
Thanks for the photos and the info re the spacer, much appreciated. Around $140 shouldn't be too hard to get past the minister for finance, particularly as she is now getting her new kitchen.
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Follow Up By: Hardo - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 09:21

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 09:21
Thanks to all for their advice. I fitted the Coilrites to the patrol on the weekend. Very easy job, and very impressed with the product.

Hardo
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