Over regulated Eastern States

Submitted: Monday, May 16, 2005 at 18:19
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As resident of the beautiful Northern Territory, I am always amused at stories from the cold states regarding all the ridiculous road rules you have, speed camers, red light cameras, don't fit bull bars, nothing can protrude from bull bars, twenty different speed zones within a short distance, police all over the place waiting to pounce at the smallest of driving errors, road tolls everywhere, blah, blah, blah.

In Darwin we only have one speed camera (in the same spot most days, and inside a white hiace van with large police striping down the side, you can,t miss the bloody thing!) We also have two red light cameras but they don't have any film in them because it wont last inside the camera in the tropical climate. Oh yer we don;t have a didicated traffic police branch either.

The moral of this tale is if you don't like all that "over governing" you can alway move up here.

By the way, don't drive on the roads though because they are full of speeding maniacs all over the place, that run red lights and no one to stop them!!!

regards tim.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 18:24

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 18:24
I'm just clearing my desk now mate!, see you soon! ;-)

Bec and I are destined to move to the country, but it'll be a while before we can get there....

All this nonsense is starting to drive me loopy! On another post I just got talked down to because I insinuated the use of the "f" word. What the hell is happening to our country!!!???

Oh well, don't take the back seat out either, your car won't be road worthy!
I mean holybleepe.

Yeah I've heard about all those maniacs in NT, that's why you guys are the ones that always have the 0 road toll!!! ;-) Having no speed limits on the open road is obviously a danger...
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 19:01

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 19:01
Maybe we should try the northern territory policy in WA.

Remember in WA, 3 years ago I think that politician wanted to lift the speed limit to 130kp/h and he was shot down over it by people who never do any long hall driving. They try everything else apart from raising the limit. Why?
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:07

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:07
I think we'd get on quite well Jeff :)

Mike Harding
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Reply By: Footloose - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 19:03

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 19:03
I love the NT...what little I'm allowed to visit because some other mob has it :))))))
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:14

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:14
Hi Tim

I too love the NT and Darwin in particular - I have few responsibilities these days and am _very_ tempted to head up there. I acknowledge what you say about the lack of over-government there ESPECIALLY compared to the eastern states. Perhaps more Aussies need to live overseas for a while in order to be able to make an objective comparison - it's hard to do so if you've never lived anywhere else - and that's not a patronising statement guys, just a realistic one.

Although I do have some sympathy with the statement by Footloose.

You've just rekindled my NT interest Tim... no reason why I couldn't go, a bit tied up for the next 12 months but then.... :)

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Footloose - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 23:47

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 23:47
You'll never never know if you never never go Mike :))
Been there, done that ...in the days before you paid to get into Kakadu. The locals were friendly.....how was I to know they were buff shooters ?
Those guys don't have blood in their bodies...they have ink a hol. Mozzies were real friendly too. And the crocs. Nuff said. Course that was in the days before backpackers so the crocs weren't quite as well fed. Met my first Fritz in a Britz up there, put his hubs in and hey presto. He passed me later going very quickly indeedie on the Jim Jim Falls track. Silly %$%^$ !
But there are as many *issues* in the Territory as anywhere else. They're just different issues.
All that aside, it's a great place. I rekkon I'd find Darwin a bit too big for me these days. All those swedish backpackers :)))
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Reply By: Steve - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:23

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:23
Tim: maybe u can tell us why: the Cannonball Run is no longer !!
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:35

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:35
surely every one knows about the Japenese competitor and the jounos?
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Follow Up By: Member - Tim F (NT) - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:35

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:35
There was a bad crash on the first running of the event, a Japanese Dentist crashed his farrari F50 into the check point just south of Alice, both he and his co-driver were killed. Three check point staff were also killed in the prang.

If you head south from Alice Springs about 110k's, just after Jim's Place you will see a plaque on the left side of the road which is a memorial to the three check point staff and the two Japanese Dentists who died.

The event was called off after the crash. There is a heap of old newspaper articles in the back room at Jim's Place. Great place to stop for a sticky beek, Jim and his brother helped his dad open up King Canyon, the old truck they used is still out the front of his place.

regards
timbo.
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Follow Up By: johnsy1 - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:39

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:39
And the Japanese had never driven over 55 kph in their lives.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 22:15

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 22:15
Not sure about it being the 1st running there was another (less legal) event in the mid 80s from surfers to perth. I cant remember all the details but a mate of mines dad was in it. His 350chev HQ ute died on the EP and apparantly the rest were met at the WA border and completed the run at 110kph. I was a Teenager at the time so some of the details may have been embelished does anyone have anyother details of it?
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:38

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:38
Couldnt agree more I live in kalgoorlie and besides the odd speed trap in town we have no probs with track closures, noisy people camped too close, entry fees for everywhere, certainly no bullbar lobby here or ant 4wd councils
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Follow Up By: Dave ....Adelaide - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 01:00

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 01:00
Hey Davoe

just a quick question for ya mate, that mate of yours with the 350 chev hq ute wouldnt happen to be a fella by the name of dick walters would it?????

Cheers ......Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 01:21

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 01:21
whose asking but yea fairly close. The last I saw of the ute it had about a 20 inch lift kit, drive to the fron wheels and a 400 chev
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Follow Up By: Dave ....Adelaide - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 01:41

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 01:41
DAVOE

My name is dave , dick and his sons tony and craig are really good friends of mine , i used to live in port lincoln , that ute of his is a ripper , last time i saw dick he was telling me he had the 350 chev turbo diesel in the thing. Cheers ....Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 01:57

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 01:57
right ho wonder if I ever met you, used to hang round that family of maniacs when i lived In wudinna, Still catch up sometimes, Craig came over to see me a couple of years ago. The 350 from the ute was eventually rebuilt and Craig put it in his Monaro which was just the thing for visiting his missus in Lincoln, just over an hour was his best from memory
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Follow Up By: Dave ....Adelaide - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 02:04

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 02:04
Ya not wrong about maniacs ...lol.....guess youd know pete bailey as well then , another good mate of mine , what about a fella called bob owers??
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 02:06

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 02:06
yea sayed with Pete the last time I was in Lincoln but not Bob
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Reply By: johnsy1 - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:48

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 20:48
The councils and state govt get me with their dob in your neighbour for watering on the wrong day ,noisey dogs blah blah blah how un australian is that .Bloomin gutless in a couple of words.
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 22:16

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 22:16
"the beautiful Northern Territory" Is that the same place where the mozzies carry your children away, your washing gets mouldy on the clothes line & you can't swim in the water cos if the sharks don't eat you the Lizards will ;-))
Cheers Craig......
Victoria, home of the best four wheel driving in Oz
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 22:44

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 22:44
Have you been to the Territory?

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 22:56

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 22:56
Only twice for a week. 4 mile hole.....we had so many mozies on the fluro light it almost went dark. Craig......
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Follow Up By: Member - Tim F (NT) - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 23:13

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 23:13
yep, thats the place!!! And we wouldn't have it any other way.

cheers timbo
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic) - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 23:17

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 23:17
and of course here in Victoria Crackles you can't wipe your own without the Premier's permission............
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 00:41

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 00:41
and bloody leeches that suck blood through your socks....yeah I had that.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 22:44

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 22:44
The moral of this tale is if you don't like all that "over governing" you can alway move up here.

what if you hate 33 degrees and storms everyday though?
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Follow Up By: warthog - Monday, May 16, 2005 at 23:48

Monday, May 16, 2005 at 23:48
Truckster, you're not citing Melb's weather as a reason to live there are you?!
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (WA) - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 02:04

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 02:04
A quck check of your www would suggest you havnt been there yet as they say "youll never never know if you never ever go"
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Follow Up By: Redback - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 07:18

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 07:18
OK Daryl, sorry Davoe, another thing is THERE'S ONLY 50 PEOPLE up there.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 23:57

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 23:57
yea been there, long story with the photos.. Did the Wynns Safari back in mid 80's, and gave all rolls to a mates missus who worked at Rabbit to develop, and never saw them again.
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Reply By: Bob&Deb - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 00:18

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 00:18
G`day Tim ,how`s it goin`. I lived in the Territory before Tracy came and blew it away. I can tell you that it is now where near as good as it used to be, since the big blow a lot of do gooders [interferers] have changed the place from being a place where everyone was easy to get along with, and accepting of others ,to a place that is at conflict with the ideals of what it used to be.
Regards Bob
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Follow Up By: Well 55 - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 08:31

Tuesday, May 17, 2005 at 08:31
I'll drink to that, I was there in the late 60's. It had a charm all of it's own, and locals to match.
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Reply By: Wizard1 - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 14:08

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 14:08
I'm not sure which Darwin you live in but it wasn't the one I lived in. From memory we had:

-Red light cameras on Stuart Hwy, although you are correct about the film.
-Speed Cameras were in several locations, although they had a few favourite sites on Stuart Hwy at Winnellie, as well as the vehicle mounte\d ones used by Hwy Patrol (Oh I forgot they don't have one) you know those dark blue XR8's, but you probably didn't notice them.
- Random breathe testing by police.

I must have imagined the blue XR8 highway patrol chasing and catching a speeding car at Pine Creek!

But lets not forget the number of idiots driving aroundbleepin unroadworthy vehicles at stupid speeds. How often do you see reports about chases involving someone 2-3 times over the legal limit, but its ok because its the NT, isn't it.

The reason there is no "over regulation" in the NT is because they do not have the resources and personnel in the NT Police to do more. But I felt Darwin as well policed as any other capital city, but not by as many. It is just easier to get away with stuff because less police on the streets.

I left there last year and do not regret leaving. Great place to live for a couple of years, see it all and leave. It is great to be back in civilisation.

Wizard
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 17:46

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 at 17:46
>It is great to be back in civilisation.

>Wizard
>Gold Coast

Civilisation? On the Gold Coast? What a amusing fellow you are.

Mike Harding
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