Factory Landcruiser Tyres vs BFGs vs ATRs
Submitted: Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 19:37
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Ralsto
Howdy,
I just bought a brand spanker LC100 series, absolutely cannot wait to get delivery...
I enquired about changing the tyres before taking delivery, getting some form of rebate on the factory tyres (
Dunlop Grandtreks), and replacing with either Cooper STs or BFG ATs. Trouble is, whilst the tyre guys I went to will give me some reasonable $$ for the Grandtreks, they won't sell Coopers (and surprisingly, gave Coopers a big of a sledging - disappointing as I have STs on my old 4Runner and love them) and I'll still be up for between $600 (for Goodyear Wrangler ATRs) to $850 (for BFGs) to change over. The tyre guy recommended I just stick with the factory Grandtreks, still reckons they are a super tyre, and said when they run out I can then look at options.
Thought I'd throw to the crowd to see if anyone has some advice... whilst i'm gonna be about 80% on road, I'd still like to be kitted up for off road fun when I can.
Cheers.
Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 19:48
Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 19:48
Ralsto,
Take delivery of your new Cruiser as is. Go and buy the tyres that you want either Cooper or BFG, and put the Grandtreks under the house. When it is time to sell the Cruiser keep the tyres that you have on it, by then you will know what is best for your type of driving, and put the new Grandtreks back on. Look a second hand Cruiser with new original tyres, must be a good buy.
Wayne
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Follow Up By: Ralsto - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 19:54
Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 19:54
Like your thinking Wayne!
Searching thru posts it seems apparent the crowd here really favour MTRs. I might go with them... I'm also getting some alloys chucked on the Tojo after picking it up, so might even throw the MTRs on the steels for bigger trips etc, and leave the Grandtreks on the Alloys. That might give me the best of both worlds.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Bris. - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 19:56
Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 19:56
If the cruiser is that good .. by the time it comes to sell the tyres they will be RS. They don't last forever.
Wear the oem's out then replace with a tyre of your choice.
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 20:00
Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 20:00
I'd go with the two sets of rims plan. However I did that but got too lazy to change them. Might be good if you don't go 4x4ing too often.
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Reply By: Trev88 - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 20:04
Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 20:04
Picked up a new Prado 15k ago with grand
treks on.
Ive been in the Vic higlands (dry weather)
Flinders ranges and the
Robe beach run no flats no chipping no problems.
but when they wear out I will be looking at a more robust tyre
Mate swears by the BFG now on his second set got just over 90k before retiring the first set and now plans to use them as extra on long runs.
c ya
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Reply By: Richard - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 20:39
Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 20:39
Have 3000KM on an LC100 TD. Had it shod it with Bridgestone D694's after I couldn't get BFG AT's due to a supply problem. Cooper ST's were not available in the legal right size. More than happy with the D694's on and off road having done Mt Airley, NSW last weekend. IFS was no problem and I don't think I lifted a wheel. Side steps copped some damage and thinking about removing them or replacing them with sliders.
Had Cooper ST-C's on a previous vehicle which replaced Bridgestone D693's which I was not happy with. Cooper's were much noiser on the blacktop but much more capable off road. Found they were not technically legal in NSW being more than 15mm over the tyre placard diameter.
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Reply By: Ralsto - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 21:05
Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 21:05
Thanks for the replies folks.
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Reply By: Member - Stan (VIC) - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 21:48
Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 21:48
If you are going with secons set MTRs get somethng like
285/75/16 size for higher clearance...
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Reply By: Con_Qld - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 21:59
Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 21:59
Trev88,
I drove an LC last year with grandtreks from
Perth to
Brisbane, via
esperance, & cape arid - sand, rocks etc...got thru ok. but reckon I was lucky.
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Reply By: Member - Jiarna (SA) - Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 22:38
Thursday, May 19, 2005 at 22:38
Hi Ralsto,
When I bought my LC80, it had Grandtrek AT2s on it so I bought 2 extras for spares. Within 12 months (less than 30K km) 5 of the 6 had sidewall failure on the
Oodnadatta Track. The last one was used as a backup on a recent trip to Alice last month, and there went the 6th Grandtrek - all of them sidewall failure. Excellent wearing tyres, and very little chipping, but way too weak in the sidewall. I am now evaluating Bridgestone Dueler 693 (not happy with the wear rate) and Cooper STT (3500 km so far so good but too soon to tell).
I like the idea of storing the Grandtreks until you want to flog off the vehicle. Or you could just stay on the blacktop LOL.
Cheers
JohnOodnadatta
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Reply By: Croozer - Friday, May 20, 2005 at 00:03
Friday, May 20, 2005 at 00:03
Ralsto,
When I got my LC100 TD last year we got alloys and had them fitted with the grandslicks and then I got the steel wheels fitted with BFG's. A bit of a pain to change them over, but most driving is on the blacktop and daily on a very bendy road which eats tyres on a full time 4wd so I prefer to chew up the dunlops not the bfg's.
Stu
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Follow Up By: figtree - Friday, May 20, 2005 at 10:30
Friday, May 20, 2005 at 10:30
THat's a good idea, Croozer,
While grandtreks are good on blacktop, they are not tough enough off-road. We had two punctures within a month (weekend trips). Both times it was dry branches puncturing through the threaded part of tyres. I wouldn't rely on them on long trips further out...
Got D693 on our little Io, which seem to be good, much tougher. The only problem is they pick up the rocks off the road. SO far, so good..
We have BFG's on HJ61 and they also performed
well. Driving on the tracks in Sturt NP, with sharp rocks on them, they got a bit chipped, but nothing serious. SIde walls seem to be much tougher than on Grandtreks.
Joseph
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Follow Up By: Member - Steve M (SA) - Friday, May 20, 2005 at 12:41
Friday, May 20, 2005 at 12:41
I also have an 03 LC100 and run the originals on the alloys and a set of Goodyear MTR's on the steel rims.
Works for me.
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Reply By: vuduguru - Friday, May 20, 2005 at 10:48
Friday, May 20, 2005 at 10:48
Hi Ralsto,
Bought my LC100 March 03. First time off road punctured a front sidewall. After a 3rd
puncture in 30K 50% worn, I replaced them with Coopers AT's. No holes in 35K. I hate changing tyres. I bought some std steel rims from a tyre
shop for $50 each. GT's and rims in garage and will go back on at sale time. Coopers ride better, tougher, longer wearing and of course better traction O/R. Whatever your replacement choice the GT's arebleepe and unsuitable for serious O/R use IMHO.
Good luck w the new hardware.
Shane
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Saturday, May 21, 2005 at 08:03
Saturday, May 21, 2005 at 08:03
Hi
If your new cruiser has 17 inch wheels, you will only be looking at a few tyre brands....seen a set of 17 inch Grandtreks for sale on overlander yesterday.
If this is the case, explore your options, as a set of oem steel 16x8's might fit fairly easy....
Andrew
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