Nokia 3205 - CDMA

Submitted: Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 11:14
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Anyone got one of these.
Telstra shop on line check it out have them of $0 and $18pm X24 months.

Off to broome early next month and wonder if this is all I will need ?

Pedro
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Reply By: Member - Banjo (SA) - Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 11:34

Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 11:34
I bought the Kyocera 3245 CDMA from Telstra because of feedback on this forum. Even Telstra said it was their superior CDMA performer (they were selling the lower priced Nokia at that stage) - there is some adverse comment here and there about Nokia CDMA - I have a personal contact who swore off CDMA because of his Nokia model's performance - The Kyoera is a winner - hangs onto the connection in dodgy areas quite well, while others would drop out it seems. A good runner in the city too. Whatever.........
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 12:07

Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 12:07
Thanks for that Banjo,
Truckster has started a thread on the Kyocera 3245 and says he is having trouble with his unit.
I take it you are not experiencing the problems he is,

By the way what price were they when you puchased; it looks like they have been replaced by a 414 (phantom) for about $349.

Pedro
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Follow Up By: Member - Banjo (SA) - Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 13:19

Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 13:19
Yep - still fine (posted on Truckster's) - can't remember the price - Telstra ended up the cheapest - Crazy John was too sensible (the highest price) ........ the Nokia at the time was keenly priced but I didn't want it - still think I did the right thing - the 3245 was at least $100 more though (I went ouright purchase - I have a very cheap, high call-cost plan).... the unit appears to have a more robust, better quality build about it than the Nokias - optional rear hatch too (belt clip and plain versions to interchange). Chrz
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Reply By: Glenno - Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 18:33

Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 18:33
I love my Nokia 6225. Picked it up when Telstra were giving $200 cash backs, so it made it a fair bit cheaper. I cant compare it to other CDMA's but I just love that it never drops out compared to crappy GSM. I love talking in the elevator whens others are cutting out.

And the rural coverage rocks. Went a good 1100km's west of Brisbane before I started to loose coverage for more than a minute or two.

Cheers,

Glenn.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 18:49

Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 18:49
Glenno,
In my further search, I came across the Nokia 6225 for $0 (Telstra) , and $20x24months, plus first 3 minutes of any call to a selected number is free.

This sounds a pretty good to me , so I was pleased to hear you are a fan.

Tell me do I need any special aerials etc with this unit, for use in the bush but mainly in main road areas between Gold Coast and Broome via Katherine.

Thanks for the interest.

Pedro
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Reply By: BenSpoon - Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 18:36

Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 18:36
Pedro,
I run those and the Kyoceras at work on remote sites, and the signal between them seems to be no more than random. last week I was getting calls and making them on my noikia 3105 when a kyocera in my other hand could not. prior to that it was the other way around- I have noticed the kois, phantoms and other kyoceras seem to get damaged more often, but a big part of that seems like "deliberate accidents" ie: a new model phone comes out and suddenly all the mill rats accidentally drop their old kyoceras into thickener tanks and are requesting the flash new model.

I went nokia because they have proven their reliability after seeing their phones run over, soaked in listerine, smashed against walls, dropped down stairs etc anbd work the next day. That, and the car kit is compatible with new and old nokias and will be for yonks to come.

Looking at the WA CDMA map, Telstra shows CDMA car kit reception for 20-30km max outside of broome.... planning on doing any out of town travelling whilst there?
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 19:00

Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 19:00
G'day Benspoon,
Yes , I will be poking around, down to 80 mile beach and up to Derby and all interesting places between.

I take it that if Telstra CDMA is only good for around 30 miles from Broome the other providers would be no better.
Do you have the site for the CDMA coverage throughout Aust?

Also is the car kit for a Nokia CDMA a necessity, or if not , what are the benefits. My wife has a Nokia Digital for security purposes only and it is carried in one of those el cheapo cradles in car.

Afraid I have never taken too much notice of mobiles , but with the trip coming up I need to learn a few things.
You will probably notiuce I made another post in reply to Glenno and am now seriously considering the Nokia 6225.

Thanks
Pedro

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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 19:17

Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 19:17
Realistically, Telstra is the only provider there. What CDMA options other providers offer there generally runs off Telstras Cell network.

The benefit of the car kit is the extra range due to having a decent external aerial, not just a little piece of foil inside a mobile phone. Due to them not having external aerial connectors, you will need to use your cradle, and pick up a nokia "antenna coupler" which has a FME-101 connector haning off it which you can then plug into a cell phone aerial (approx $140 for aerial, $20? for coupler) The rest of the $300 car kit isnt required if all you want to do is improve signal.

If you rock into any telstra shop you can get maps of the state with CDMA coverage on it. Virtually all the SW of the state is under CDMA car kit cover, but in the NW it is few and far between.

The car kit virtually doubles reception area.
The brockure is called "CDMA Western Australia" and has a picture of wave rock on the front of it.

stumbled across these:
Improving Reception Scroll down the page
Coverage Maps
General Coverage..... but has dead links in it.

Nokia 6225.... if it is what you want. colour screen and camera is great, but you cant sent or recieve MMS (picture/video/sound messages) on telstras CDMA service, so its features arent particularly practical. Still a good phone nonetheless.
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Reply By: cmilton54 - Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 19:30

Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 19:30
Have phantom KE414C paid $293 from ringing Telstra direct, plus $200 bonus. Could pay out right or on monthly plan no interest.
Cheers
Charlie
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Reply By: Muddy 'doe (SA) - Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 21:23

Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 21:23
Have a Nokia 6225 and have been surprised at the places where it will get signal when others struggle. Will do me.

Muddy
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Reply By: Richard - Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 21:29

Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 21:29
I purchased a Nokia 6255 a couple of months ago. I is the first bluetooth CDMA phone available. Seems to work as well as my old Hyundai Gulliver which I had for about five years. It has all the fancy stuff but I got it to dowload emails to my bluetooth PDA on the fly.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 21:39

Friday, Jun 03, 2005 at 21:39
Peter ,, go for the 6225 Nokia for an extra 2 bucks a month, you get radio and camera and heaps more, still from Telstra and cdma.. its a better phone.. Michael
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Reply By: mattlobie - Saturday, Jun 04, 2005 at 15:00

Saturday, Jun 04, 2005 at 15:00
Hey Peter,
I've got a 3205. It's replaced my old Samsung N105 (I think that's the model number). I went to Nokia mainly for extra battery life. A lot of mates of mine have digital Nokias and the battery life is unbeatable. The standby battery life is *supposed* to be up to 10 days. I dunno if I've got a dud battery or what, but mine's flat out lasting 3 days, and I don't use it that much. I should get onto Telstra about it. Haven't taken it too far out of town yet but coverage seems comparable to the Samsung. I'm a little sceptical about the lack of aerial though. I was always under the impression that CDMAs needed clear air between them and the tower and the idea of the aerial was to keep your head out of the way. Dunno.

I also considered the 6225 but ended up choosing this. Whoever said that the 3205 doesn't have a camera and a radio needs to get their facts straight because mine sure does, takes good quality pics too. It's got a colour screen too. The features were pretty comparable to the 6225 for my needs. It's got WAP, which I use a fair bit. It's got a flashlight which is actually very useful. It's two led's on the bottom of the phone. Provides more than enough light to find something in your tent or bag in the middle of the night and it doesn't seem to drain the battery very heavily.

The thing that made my mind up is that the 6225 only has a 6 month warranty on the battery, whereas the 3205 has 12 months. I'm pretty sure they use the same battery, so no idea why, but that's the go.

The 3205 is also available on the $20 plan you mentioned with the 3 minute free option. I use the 3 minutes all the time, incidently, very handy. I also talked them into giving me a lifestyle pack thingy for free - car charger, hands free and leather case. I use all three very often. Whichever model you choose, try to get one of those.

So, in conclusion, I'm happy with it apart from my battery issue. I'm sure it must be faulty. This is my third CDMA phone and it's coverage seems comparable to the last two. The last two were both Samsungs, by the way.

Let me know if you have any questions.

matt
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Reply By: mattlobie - Monday, Jun 06, 2005 at 00:00

Monday, Jun 06, 2005 at 00:00
Also, I came across these items on eBay today. They might interest you. I haven't seen or used either so I have no idea what they're like. Might increase your coverage in the car though.

External Antenna Adaptor Cable
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6400994106&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

7dBi Heavy Duty CDMA/GSM Antenna
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10364&item=6400408943&rd=1

matt
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Reply By: Mainey (WA) - Monday, Jun 06, 2005 at 23:22

Monday, Jun 06, 2005 at 23:22
Peter
I have a Motorola V810 CDMA flip phone, small enough to fit into the pocket and not be noticed, about the size of a box of matches. Works well in the city and the “bush” where there is reception, has camera and internet capabilities.

As to "all you will need" is no real service here in the bush anyway, depending where you call "the bush" I suppose, so unless you want a phone you can use in the city also, why get into any contractual arrangements for a large CDMA phone.

A good CB radio is probably more useful in many ways.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Monday, Jun 06, 2005 at 23:39

Monday, Jun 06, 2005 at 23:39
We have the Motorola with a Genuine car kit and 6db Spring base antenna. It's absolutally brilliant. We got it on a $50 plan with Telstra and got the Genuine car kit for $50 on the first bill. The high gain antenna was $130 from Dick Smith.

My mate has just got one of the Nokias this week, looks the good, simple but easy to use and most likley fairly reliable. I was under the impression that even when used with a genuine car kit the Nokia's did not have the facility to utilise an external arial which may be something to watch out for. Check with nokia though, this new model might be different.

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Follow Up By: mattlobie - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:17

Tuesday, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:17
Yeah, I believe that is the case with the Nokias (3205 and 6225 at least) and the external antenna. That's why I posted that adaptor cable from ebay. I thought it might allow the use of an external antenna. But I don't know much about it.

matt
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Reply By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 07, 2005 at 16:54

Tuesday, Jun 07, 2005 at 16:54
Matt, and Jeff
That part , according to a fitter here on the Gold Coast , can be used to fit the Nokia 6225 , to an outside aerial.
Also checked with Genuine Mobile Accessories in Brisbane and they sell a Patch Lead for $29 with postage at $8.50.

Mainey,
will be using the phone back in the city but take your point.

Thanks again to all for the ready assistance
Pedro

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