twin wheel carrier

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 22:56
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I want a extra spot to put a spare wheel....now do I just put in on the roof rack or do I buy a twin wheel carrier? I was very shocked when I got a price on one of those babies....I didn't realise they have to replace the back bar for this thing to go on there....there must be something else that I can do get a second spare on the back of the GU. I think I might have a problem fitting 2 on the back do to the size of tyres I am running and I am not sure if 2 will fit on there...I am running 295x75 and I am going to 315's soon I hope ( on wish list )

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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 23:03

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 23:03
I put my dual wheel carrier on cos even though I'm over 6 foot tall, getting a full spare + wheel onto roof rack with 4" of lift was a bit hard on my back.
I'm only running 265/75s and there is a bit of a gap between the 2 tyres; I'd probably get a set of 285/75R16s on there but reckon that'd be about the limit.
Mine is from Oppy Lock and the new rear bar is a worthwhile investment in itself cos of the extra strength, high-lift jacking points, taking the weight of the spare off the back door etc.
Cheers
Roachie
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Reply By: motherhen - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 23:04

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 23:04
Our Patrol has the twin wheel carrier. It is heavy, but so would a tyre on the roof rack be, if i was putting it up or getting it down. A drawback of the set up was when we had a fuel can carrier on the A frame of the caravan, it hit the spares if turning a tight circle - they stick out further than the original wheel carrier. We only keep one spare on when we are at home, so can't comment how much bigger tyres it would accommodate. Could you create a carrier that holds two, one behind the other?
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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 18:26

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 18:26
I have seen twin carriers around with kaymar stickers that carry 2 tyres- one on the inside of the carrier, the other on the outside- both tyres mounted on the same swing-out arm (4x tyres all up). I have only ever seen them carrying thin LT tyres- but it does the job it is made for. I have never seen them on sale though, so I am not sure if they are modified kaymars, or a standard item.
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 23:45

Tuesday, Jun 14, 2005 at 23:45
I was thinking about doing something very dodgy but don't know if it will hold up okay...how about this. Just strap another tyre onto the current one with some ratchet straps through the rims so there will be 4 ratchets straps pulling the one tyre onto the other one. I will only do this when I go on trips where I think I might need the extra spare...is this to dodgy?
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Follow Up By: Member - Kimberly Kruiser (WA) - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:35

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:35
Dodgy - YES.

Legal - Probably not.

Something Positive - Ahhhhhh nup.
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Follow Up By: Wizard1 - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 12:58

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 12:58
Tried the same idea od strapping tyres together on our caravan, it didn't last long and that was with a casing not a whole assembly.

I would be reluctant to place 2 tyre assemblies on a single carry point.

1. You will probably exceed the load limit for the spare wheel carrier.

2. You may cause damage to the Rear Door or hinges due to the extra weight.

We have a Prado which does not allow for the fitment of a replacement bumper and dual wheel carriers, although I would love to fit one. So we a left with the wheel on the roof rack. It is a pain as lifting it on and off can be a bit of a task, but it is that or have no extra spare.

Wizard
Prado TD
Gold Coast
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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 18:36

Thursday, Jun 16, 2005 at 18:36
dodgy.. i like it.

The original opposite lock twin wheel carriers had problems with the strength of the swing-out arms. There are a few people on this forum that have experienced the cracks forming on the arms. The ones made now have gussets in to strengthen the welds that failed before, and they are advertised at a 1-tonne load rating per arm.
Given the weight of a tyre, if you go making your car fly and land hard you are approaching this SWL limit. Even with a longer-than-standard high-lift jack hanging off the back of one of my spares, the extra weight still takes its toll on the bearings- they are showing slop now, and its only a year or so down the track.
Bung an extra tyre on an same arm, and you effectively triple the torque applied to the arm and bearings- a few small speedhumps and I reckon youd be looking for runaway tyres.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 01:53

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 01:53
I had a vehicle with heaps of weight behind the back wheel and it really craps out the dynamics. Think about it why do you not chuck all the weight in the back of a ute??
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:46

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:46
Yea I thought it was dodgy....will check out what the max size wheel will fit on those carriers and go from there...it's going to be hard work getting a 315 off the roof rack for sure
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 10:53

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 10:53
I did the Simpson last year with a member of this forum and he had a spare casing strapped as you suggest to the spare on the back door of a Prado without any problems. If you need an extra spare a lot then go for the rear carrier but it does put a lot of extra weight behind the back wheels and you will need to upgrade suspension further probably. Why not just put a casing on the roof rack which would be a lot lighter and should'nt be too hard to get up and down.
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Follow Up By: kev.h - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 17:38

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 17:38
i strap just the casing on the spare at the back without any problems would have covered almost 20,000 klms that way.
The trick to stop the tyre sagging as you drive along is to bend a short length of 50mm x 5mm flat steel into an 's' shape. One end of the 's' goes over the spare on the car ( tight fit ) and the other end hooks under the lip of the case, than you only have totie the bottom of the tyre in works for me
can email a sketch if you need
Kev
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Reply By: Charcoal RS - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 14:00

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 14:00
For all you new shape Prado owners. K&N Fabrications in Perth do a twin wheel carrier.
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Reply By: Carchania - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 19:31

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 19:31
gday
my mate has a dual wheel carrier on the back of his GQ and he is running 35x15 and the tyre barely lets him get the rear door open without moving them both. in the edition of 4wd monthly that had the build up of that landcruiser, the OL bar they put on the back said it takes a maximum of a 35inch tyre. would hazard a guess to say that this is standard amongst all the manufacturers

cheers

Leayton
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Reply By: Member - Glenn D (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 19:57

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 19:57
Do anything you can not to spend 3 grand . I wanted the twin wheel carrier but ended up putting the spare on the roof as necessary. Money that can be well spent else where if going away.

Glenn
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Follow Up By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 20:40

Wednesday, Jun 15, 2005 at 20:40
Yea it's allot of money so might just stick with the roofrack
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