Mud driving
Submitted: Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 14:47
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With all the rain we had recently I am planning to take the Challenger out in the hills next week-end and will most likely encounter some mud. Having dealt with proper mud only once a long time ago I am not very familiar with it and am after any usefull tip you guys can give me to make the experience easier.
Basically, I am after the following:
1/ should I let my tyres down (I have factory tyres not nice mud rubber).
2/ When to use low range / high range (I guess it will be up to me to learn from experience when to select one or the other like on the sand).
3/ Speed, acceleration, breakage, change of gear, turning the wheels: Basically what sort of driving attitude should I have, what should I definitely do/not do. I guess it should be similar to sand: smooth and not too fast and a bit of thinking ahead combined with common sense.
3/ Since I probably won't do any of the above properly, tips to avoid getting bogged when I feel the situation gets too serious.
4/ and of course since I will also f#@@ck up point 3 above, tips to get out of a bogged situation (I have a hand winch and an air jack, but obviously would prefer to use them as the last resort).
5/ Any other good advise other than stay at
home or stick to the black top :-).
Thanks in advance,
SLy.
Reply By: Member - Browny (VIC) - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 17:41
Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 17:41
sly,
On factory rubber I would make every endevour to avoid any mud you come accross, be extremely wary of any downhill sections as often the make up of a track can change half way down a
hill, from shaley/ rocky type surface to dead set clay and trying to maintan control of your vehicle on clay filled tyres is not something you wil enjoy, when heading down
hill I would make sure your tyres travel in the ruts otherwise, sliding off the side of a track is a real possibilaty.
If travelling up
hill in ruts you can gain a little added traction by moving your wheels from side to side in a rappid motion so as to bring your side walls into brief contact with the sides of the rut adding a little bit of traction to help out your mud filled tread.
Don't go alone and don't underestimate how easy it is to loose all traction on any tyre let alone factory jobs
Browny
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 18:19
Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 18:19
Me? I'd give the mud a miss.
Once I encountered a four hour bog in the NT. We were driving solo. It was very soft driving offroad and the LC sank to its belly. I managed to pull four large size trees over with the PTO trying to extricate the truck. Not by design but this in itself helped me get out using the trees as mud fodder.
On our way back to
Alice Springs 2 weeks ago we encountered 100km of mud, slush and bogs on the way to
Israelite Bay. The two Nissans were covered in mud. The following day we drove a very overgrown track and scratched all the mud off. Further along the middle of the track was also very overgrown and so cleaned the underneath of the trucks. How lucky can one be.
First thing with mud is to make an assessment.
Turn back or find another way around is the first option.
Make sure you have recovery gear with you
Drop your tyre pressures to 30psi
Next I would attack it in 2nd High Range to gain momentum and drop down to 1st if needed. Keep the revs up and the wheels spinning.
If you get bogged you are on your own and you will no doubt get muddy feet.
You may have to drop your tyre pressures further and now tackle the rest in Low Range...slowly
Failing that winch yourself out or be snatched out by your friends.
If you have neither it will be time to contemplate things
My opinion.
Good luck!
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 21:17
Thursday, Jun 23, 2005 at 21:17
Sly,
I'm with Davoe and Willem, on this one. Stay away from mud. Just had 73mm of rain here last week, and had to drive out about 45 km to let some cattle out of a yard. Took 2 79 series tojos, and a 4 wheeler. Took 3 hours to do return trip, and half an hour to let cattle out. Then took a day to wash both utes, using a gernie.
Did let all tyres down to 25 psi, which makes a huge difference, but still did some skating at times.
Pulling through heavy mud really knocks vehicles about. 18 months ago, drove about 90km up the river, to pick up Wife and Daughter. Round trip took nearly eight hours, even with chains, and used about 90 L of diesel. Have recently had both diffs replaced, no doubt from this abuse.
The other advice is to walk the boggy spots, a few minutes exercise can save you hours of angst later on. That's one thing I've learnt since being an impulsive 20 year old!
If it's heavy mud, feed it plenty of fat.
Hooroo...
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Reply By: Tonester - Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 08:59
Friday, Jun 24, 2005 at 08:59
Sly, I like mud, but am very wary now when alone (which is rare). I was passenger in a two truck trip and we got stuck (both, same time, call it bad communication) with only a handwinch to get us out. 4 hours later, coming on dark, away from
camp site, but we did get them out. Mud can be like glue, very sticky. How much and how long can you pull alone on a handwinch? We had three people, and it near killed us by the end. Careful going it alone (esp with family, kids?), take a backup truck if you can. Tonester
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