Hella Plugs...what's the point?

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 18:28
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I have a 3 Hella females in the back of my truck, and quite frankly it's a pain in the arse! The waeco runs off it, and came with the right adaption, but nothing else does.

I bought a spare Hella Plug from OL ($16.50!!! not cheap) in case the waeco plug broke and low and behold it did. When replacing it with the proper Hella plug, I found out it wasn't fused. So bought ice til i could get a replacement.

I know i could hardwire a fuse, or the fridge itself, but if I want to plug anything else into the rear outlets, I have to spend an additional $16.50 per item I want to run! I must say also, that the Hella plug didn't make good contact with the Hella socket (was fine in a stnd socket) and needed wiggling.

So why have them at all? Why not use the stnd size females that most 12v items will fit into?

That now not being an option, does anybody know where I can get decent Hella Size plugs at a more reasonable rate?

Cheerio
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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 18:40

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 18:40
In my experience they are a more secure plug, that's about it. I changed mine over because standard cig lighter plugs would vibrate loose. You could change out the hella plugs for standard cig plugs if that's your fancy. For decent hella plugs, $16.50 is about right, I've seen them dearer but not much cheaper.
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Follow Up By: Member - Kingsley N (SA) - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 18:58

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 18:58
I have had had no real problem with the $17.00 ones that also include a type of sleeve that fits over the smaller Hella plug enabling you to use it in either the small female or the larger standard lighter socket. I don't use the lighter socket because they are not active until the ignition is switched on (useless for lights or fridge running after the vehicle is switched off).

They are not all that solid however and I did bust one by allowing something heavy to push against it on a trip. I just stuck it back together.

Kings
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Follow Up By: WheelTravel - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 19:39

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 19:39
This is the Hella Plug that I have, It doesn't seem to be widely available? Is this the one most people use? I personally think this one is not very good compared to the Waeco original, and I have heard people say that the Waeco original is crap compared to the Hella. Maybe I just need to get the different type ofr Hella.

http://db.hella.com.au/cgi-bin/catalogue.pl?flcmd=preview&flmaint=333

Cheerio
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 20:01

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 20:01
That's the same plug I use. Perhaps the female plugs in the truck are of lesser quality. When I bought mine, I got both male & female of the same brand and they fit quite snugly. They do move a little more than the standard cig plug but they don't seem to break contact on the rough stuff.
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Reply By: cokeaddict - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 18:40

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 18:40
Those plugs are a rip off if you ask me. I had 2 in mine and tossed them out when i bought the GQ. Overprices indeed. There are much better ways to set up wiring for fridges and stuff IMO.
Angelo
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Reply By: Member - Pezza (QLD) - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 18:50

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 18:50
I've seen them 'Hella females' walking around at the trade stalls at the 4x4 shows, mate, if you don't want them send one to my place, I'm sure I can hide one in the cupboard for a while. LOL

Avagoodn
Pezza
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Reply By: garthyguts - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 18:52

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 18:52
i just use std 240v power outlets and plugs very cheap and simple to use
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 13:03

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 13:03
until someone plugs your 12v appliance into thier 240v powerpoint at home......

Leroy
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 20:26

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 20:26
The words stupid and dangerous come to mind. Alright for you if you know but not if anyone else gets involved.

Illegal in some states (if not all), this sort of thing helps keep me in a job but also undertakers. Could see you charged with various offences depending on the coronial inquest and how much blame you are attributed with, and it will be most of it.

If you really want to go down that track use the designated low voltage plugs. Look kinda like a mains plug but only have two pins and one is a right angles to the other.

Dave
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Follow Up By: garthyguts - Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 08:22

Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 08:22
for the last 20years never a problem
you may have stupid freinds but i dont
every one whats to be the know it all
its MY fridge,lights and anything else so it's IN MY ute
no one else takes it so I can do what I what .
so can any one else it's up to them
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 08:46

Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 08:46
Tell that to the Coroner and to the Funeral crowd assembled when one off your friends kids plug into your system ,,YES sir I CAN DO AS I WANT !!!! [ just for a laugh ,seeing you can do as you want ,try pushing a screwdriver into your house sockets ,might just shock some bloody sense into you.]
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Follow Up By: garthyguts - Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 09:09

Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 09:09
i like coming on info sites to cop crap from people
i said i use, i did not say for you or anyone else to do the same
get of your high horse people
social police i dont need

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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 10:31

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 10:31
Mate, someone asked what other people used with the intention of finding something for themselves and maybe other who later read this in the archives as a solution to using Hella plugs.

You have to be just a little bit responsible if you are going to reply in these forums. A fellow 4wd'ers lack of electrical knowledge might have him thinking "what a great solution" and diving off down to Bunnings for some 240v plugs and sockets.

My wife uses my Engel when she defrosts the freezer and I'm sure others do to. Or their teenage kids borrow it.

One of them plugging it in to 240v and dying would lead to a fairly comprehensive investigation in which this archive may end up searched just to find the bit where garthyguts recommended using 240v plugs, then shortly after they may come knocking on your door.

Worst case scenario certainly, but beyond the realms of possibility? I think not.

Sorry you took it to heart but it really was an idea destined to have someone awarded a Darwin.

Dave
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Reply By: Brew69(SA) - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 19:37

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 19:37
In my experience the hella plug is fantastic. The Waeco plug which has a sort of hella plug or standard cig lighter should be thrown over the left shoulder as it is useless. You say the Hella plug is not fused? This is one of the reasons it is better. My waeco plug was forever blowing fuses(due to corrugations,bumps etc). All you need to do is make sure the power supply has an inline fuse. The price is an issue yes but I think for the piece of mind and trouble free run i have had its worth it.
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Follow Up By: WheelTravel - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 19:47

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 19:47
Hey there,

I have heard that, and I think that the Hella plug I have (see above link) is not the one everyone raves about. It is plastic and wobles around more than the Waeco.

I do have an inline fuse...i think. I have a fuse that is attached to the Dual Battery, which blows occassionally but is rated at 30 amps.

Why would this blow but not the plug fuse? It happens when the socket is bumped etc. Is it coz this is closer to the battery? I am pretty ignorant when it comes to electronics.

Cheerio
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 20:04

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 20:04
Well if the short occurs in the socket when bumped it will blow the fuse between the power source and the socket.If the short is in the plug then it will blow the fuse in the plug...i think lol....now i am confused
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 19:56

Sunday, Jun 26, 2005 at 19:56
Well there you go ,each to his /her own , on any and all my 12v ,lights ,waeco and engle ,recharge torches ,air compressor ect, I changed the MALE to a cheap [$3.50] WAECO style plug , perfect fit into cig type female,stainless steel sold by 12volt shop ,not cheap at $10 ea but no rust to hinder connection ,have yet to blow a fuse in plug or lose a connection on some serious bouncy travels /// plugs from supa cheap , ok made in china , stainless fem plug made in taiwain .,,, works for me.
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Reply By: GeroBoof - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 00:45

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 00:45
WheelTravel

Check out hella marine
Link to what I used below
http://www.hellamarine.com/?t=3&pcid=46

Cheers
Get out and get Dirty
Gero Boof
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Follow Up By: 80scruiser - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 21:11

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 21:11
Good One.
I use the 2620 on my fridge. Excellent contact, no troubles for over 2 years. Placed an inline fuse up near the deep cycle and 4mm wire all the way through. Excellent product.
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Reply By: crfan - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:55

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 12:55
You can get the Narva Plug part #82106bl for About $9.00 retail fits the hella socket
but doesnt have the sleave to fit the cig socket.
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Reply By: Pluto - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 13:22

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 13:22
This style of plug is far more reliable than the cig lighter style plugs. Although I have heard a few stories about the hella brand plugs breaking, the format is still superior. Try looking at the plugs and sockets at Arrid.

I have been using the arrid plugs on all of the electrical accessories I carry off road, including the fridge, invertor, camp lighting, various power supply leads and battery chargers. I decided to go with these plugs several years ago and have not had a failure (including a lead light plug that was dragged for a couple of kilometres).
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Follow Up By: WheelTravel - Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 13:36

Monday, Jun 27, 2005 at 13:36
Thanks everybody for your help, as usual, heaps ofvaluable information.

I am going with Arrid plugs as I have heard good things and they're cost effective.

Their supplier in Adelaide, Dario Caravans (8277 4388) stocks the Waeco type(but better quality) at $7.50.

I will keep everyone updated on whether this stops my fuse blowing.

I will use the waeco spares and the hella one(that didn't work properly while driving) to run lights/shower etc.

Safe Travels.
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Reply By: Member - Hugh (WA) - Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 00:51

Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 00:51
Hi Wheeltravel,

I use Arrid plugs and have found these to be very reliable. I have converted most accessories to run on this plug but have also made a couple of adaptors (male arrid, female cig socket) to enable other peoples gear to work when needed.

I purchased mine from the 12Volt Shop. Open link and click on plugs.
12Volt Shop

Regards,
Hugh
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Reply By: Steve - Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 08:27

Tuesday, Jun 28, 2005 at 08:27
you get better contact with hella than a ciggy plug. the ciggy plug is lig putting two pin-heads together whereas the hella is flatter and wider and affords more and therefore better contact.
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