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Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 10:44
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Recently I was informed that if you rang 000 on your mobile it is not always successful due to some carriers not recognising it. If you ring 112 on your mobile anywhere in the world you will be in touch with the emergency operator.

something to keep in the back of your head when travelling.

cheers
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Reply By: vitara - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:11

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:11
Very True Worth putting in your list of contacts in your mobile phone so we don't forget it.
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Reply By: Member - iMusty (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:41

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:41
In Melbourne the company that answers the 000 calls is a company called Intergraph Pty Ltd.

A few years back the Herald Sun (in Melb.) ran an artical about a fellow that "snuck" through their "high level security systems" and had a right proper "go" at one of their staff. hahahahahahaha

Their staff member was a very bad person ... but was consequently shunted into 'hiding' within that company

I wonder how I know about that?

I was not the staff member. lololololollolol

No charges were laid.

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Follow Up By: Moggs - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 12:36

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 12:36
Geez iMusty...do you have a relative named Ferrit??
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Follow Up By: Member - iMusty (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 14:38

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 14:38
I have no relatives.

iMusty is not evem my real alias name.
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, Jun 30, 2005 at 07:44

Thursday, Jun 30, 2005 at 07:44
that would be right...dis-owned ages ago!
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Reply By: Ando80 - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:41

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:41
This is correct, this is also why when the keypad on the mobile is locked, you can still typed in 112 and nothing more. This way if you come across an accident, dont have a mobile but you find the mobile of the person unconcious which is password locked or similar, you can still use it to call an emergency.

Further to this, that number will go to any carrier that has service in the area, for example if you with a smaller company and they dont have service where you are but telstra might, then it will go through the telstra network.

Though, I have never heard of being unable to get through on '000' only if the carrier you are with doesn't have service in that area.
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Reply By: Member - TonyG (Qld) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:50

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 11:50
Hi Madcow,

Thankyou for this piece of info. It is invaluable.

I have plugged it into my phone already.

Much Appreciated

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Reply By: Brian B (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 12:23

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 12:23
Hi Folks,

That is worth noting.

Just to clear up one point though. When anyone dials 000 in Australia, the first person you speak to is a Telstra Operator who will ask you what service you require. It is then that you are connected to your provider whether it be Police, Fire or Ambulance. Some of these services use private contractors to provide their communications function such as the Melbourne system.

The Melbourne model still goes through Telstra with Intergraph Public Safety then being a provider contracted to the Victorian government to provide communication Centre functions.

When they were first set up Intergraph wer involved in some awful incidents due to a whole range of issues.

From a national perspective Telstra and the emergency services are all promoting 000 as the one number to use for emergencies.
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Reply By: NathanK - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 12:34

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 12:34
exactly.

what 112 does is automatically dial the emergency number for the country you are in, thus in australia it will dial 000 as it is the number programmed into the phone for our area.

as mentioned, it is an emergency call and thus will use ANY carrier that it can which is great news for people not on telstra when out in the bush.
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Follow Up By: hl - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 13:00

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 13:00
This does not work with CDMA, the most likely phone that may work in the bush. Of course you can dial 000 on the CDMA phone, but another carrier's phone using GSM will NOT work in the same area.

Cheers
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Reply By: Banjo - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 15:36

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 15:36
I understand that a '000' call, even if you have no reception, will still get connected. I was told something to do with satellite connection. Perhaps someone who knows more can confirm this?

Banjo (WA)
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Follow Up By: Member - iMusty (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 16:22

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 16:22
I would not bet my life on it.

Get a Sat phone or HF radio.
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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 16:47

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 16:47
Not so.
A CDMA phone operates on the CDMA system and frequencies. GSM has its own system and frequencies, just as sat phones have their own. Unless you have purchsed a GSM phone that also does satellite (Im not aware of them making them- only CDMA and Sat so far) you will not go through to satellite.
As mentioned though, if you are on a suspended phone, a smaller carrier, a phone with no sim card etc, and dial 112 you will be accepted by any carrier that you are within reception range of.
ACA has a table of phone conditions (ie- no SIM, disconnected, account suspended etc) and which carriers will still put you through.
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Follow Up By: GraemeD - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 16:48

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 16:48
No. If there's no reception, there's no reception. If there's *some* reception, i.e. the area is covered by another service provider, then you will be able to get a 000 call through irrespective of who your phone service provider is. A satellite connection would only work for satellite phones. GSM and CDMA phones rely on ground based masts (ignoring the rare, one off, balloon mounted cells that have been used in some circumstances).

I'm tempted by the idea of a satellite phone, but I can't justify the cost.

Graeme
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Follow Up By: Geoff - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 16:49

Wednesday, Jun 29, 2005 at 16:49
THIS IS NOT TRUE, this urban mith has come about when people have not had service on thier mobiles but have still been able to get throught to 000 as mentioned above on other carriers networks.
Your moblie will only show signal strenght from your carrier not anyone elses, so you can always try calling 000 or 112 but if there are no moblie base stations around from any carrier than you are stuffed. PLEASE don't believe it will go to a satellite, only satellite phone can talk to satellites as they are on a completly different frequency range.

from some one how work for Telcos.
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Reply By: madcow - Thursday, Jun 30, 2005 at 07:51

Thursday, Jun 30, 2005 at 07:51
Good to see the comments both positive and negative. we are all wiser by reading the thread.

cheers
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Reply By: D-Jack - Thursday, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:01

Thursday, Jun 30, 2005 at 09:01
For those that watch too much television 911 also works.

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