Whats a good f4by for 25k?

Submitted: Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 20:27
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Hi guys helping out the brother inlaw he wants in on the 4wd scene, he has 25k and needs a wagon for family. What would be best value? Something fairly reliable in an auto for his misses to drive. Guys any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. I sugested disco td5 simply for price and klm??????

HELP!

Babs
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Reply By: Member - Bill S (NSW) - Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 20:37

Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 20:37
You cant go past a 80srs cruiser and would likley pick one up good in that area,mines done over 400,000 and running well but not auto its man
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Follow Up By: babs - Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 21:15

Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 21:15
Hey Bill thanks for your reply. was your 80series petrol or diesal?
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 18:52

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 18:52
my 80 was diesal with 200k and all you need for going out bush (winch scrub bars elecrical outlets etc etc) for 15 so you would expect a whole lot more for 25 or spend 10k on turbo and still have enough left over for camper trailor and whatever else
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Reply By: trendy - Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 20:39

Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 20:39
Babs,

I had a great run out of a 96 Pajero 3.5 DOHC in auto was a bit thirsty but generally a good reliable vehicle. These would be well within his price now, and plenty of them have not seen much offroad action due to inner city mums driving the kids to school in this type of vehicle. Was suprised at how good it was offroad but nowhere in the league of your GU with double diff locks so may be adviseable for him to find another 4by playmate. ( referring to your post the other night :-)) )
Regards Trevor.
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Reply By: Scubaroo - Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 20:47

Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 20:47
I just picked up a 2000 NM Pajero Exceed for not much more, with only 64k on the clock - a GLS NM with low k's would easily fall in that price range.

Absolutely wrapped with it.
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Reply By: Member - Jeff M (WA) - Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 20:52

Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 20:52
Does he want petrol or diesel or not care? Pajero's probally not a bad pick for a petrol option. If he wants to go Diesel there ain't much around in the auto category for that price.
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Reply By: Member - Jimbo (VIC) - Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 21:00

Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 21:00
Babs,

You can get into a 2-3 year old Terracan for that sort of money with the balance of the 5 year warranty still intact.

Seven seats, plenty of power, very easy to drive and more than competent off road.

Mine is now over a year old and is the best value car I have ever owned.

Cheers,

Jim.
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Follow Up By: Diamond (Vic) - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 16:03

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 16:03
he can buy a 2-3 year old terracan and still have $10000 spare.
lolol
cheers mate
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Reply By: babs - Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 21:32

Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 21:32
Hey everyone thanks for your replies im onto the pajero (now) he's hitting the yards tomorrow.
Hey Jimbo what a thought, the terracan, not my cup of tea but for him maybee perfect. Just starting to hear good things about them, might have to do more research. Cheers.

Hey guys the pajero's do they have any common faults. I know mitsubishi has been trying really hard but im still in that old mind and dont trust mitsi. Like I said old mind might have to change my way of thinking.

Can anyone tell me about landrover or is it a swear word on this site?

Answers to above q? Petrol or diesal is fine

Cheers Babs
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Follow Up By: Ando80 - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 01:38

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 01:38
I hqad a 97 Pajero GLS auto. excellent vehicle and could not fault it on or off road. ok idependant suspension let it down a tad, but it never stopped me! I have heard though 97 on is better than the 96 as they went from quad cam to two cam (single overheads) and were a little less hungry, and could take gas whereas the quad cam couldn't. I believe i heard another reason was that they were a bit questionable having the quad cam in a four wheel drive for reliability (don't know why, just what i heard).

From what i hear Terracans are good, from memory they are based on the same mechanicals as the 97 onwards pajero with different body (and spring rates)

I've had a few mitsi's old and new and they have never let me down..

Unfortunately Landrover on the other hand did.. had a v8 Disco which died at the sight or water and left me stranded for a few days requiring a tow! BUT others will insist they have no problems (diesel esp.). I won't be touching another one though.

Hope this helps
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Follow Up By: trendy - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 10:19

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 10:19
Agree with Ando about pre 97 no good for gas and a little more thirsty but on the upside they have heaps more go in them. Drive the two vehicles back to back and you will know what I mean. I used mine as a tow vehicle pulling 2 tonne and 1/2 tonne in the truck, so to say it worked was an understatement. fuel figures not unusual to see 25lt/100km. Push hard and you can even get to 30lt/100km. But could still overtake anything fully loaded out on the highway. I had mine for 2 years and done 170 000 km without a hitch. Also the 96 had 15000 km servicing where as 97 went back to 10000 if this makes a difference to your outlaws choice. Make sure the timing belt has been changed each 100 000 km as it causes big repair bill if it breaks. Oh and the plugs are a b@stard to change.
Happy hunting and be patient there are real good ones out there.
Trevor
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 15:30

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 15:30
The terracan uses the same chassis and drivetrain as the Pajero, so it would be worthwhile including them in your search, if fo no other reason as having less km's on the clock.

Don't discount a Nissan Patrol GQ, even with 250-350 thou on the clock. At that point they are just run in. Upside: bulletproof drivetrain, size, parts availability. Downside: fuel consumption. (realistically not much worse than a loaded up Pajero petrol)
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Follow Up By: vitara - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 20:56

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 20:56
Hi all my mate had a pajero but it was diesel manual Ithink 2.8 turbo blew 3 head gaskets with in 150.000klms apparently common probs with that motor,had it serviced by the book, just a thought if your mate is looking at the pajero diesel,Ithink the diesel only come out in manual anyway,dony know if anyone else has had the same probs or maybe his was just a lemon from the start, my other mate has the 3.5 v6 in auto escape model loves it and it gets used for 4wd has had no probs so far bought it brand new has 160.000lkms Ithink his is a 97 mod very comfortable compared to my lux. Take Care Vitara
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Reply By: hilux bert - Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 21:36

Friday, Jul 01, 2005 at 21:36
for 25k a gq or older gu patrol is available. heaps on the market and gq's are proven vehicles.they're worth a look.
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Reply By: Swine Hunter - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 02:23

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 02:23
Hi Babs,

I would agree with above, a GU in 4.5 Petrol or 3.0TD are both available in auto, and both are capable. I would be reserved on the 3.0TD, Nissan have had lots of issues with the first of this series.

The petrol is hungry on fuel, but with diesel prices as they are now and the additional cost for diesel servicing(more frequent)/repairs if needed, make the petrol a far more viable option these days.

I have a 94 GQII petrol 4.2, and it is a very capable tough and reliable vehicle, but if you are looking to spend most of that $25K a GU is the better option IMHO.
Cheers,
Wayne
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Follow Up By: timglobal - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 02:28

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 02:28
To give fair POV - Gu 3.0 TD is very capable for the money. Early wrinkles are ironed out or *if* very unlucky Nissan will come to the table.

Yotas are equal, but mildly pricier equation.
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 08:50

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 08:50
Be great if you could find a 3.0 GU for $25k! It would be a bargain.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 18:56

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 18:56
early model gu 3.0 would it be a bargain at any price!!!!!!! failures are VERY well documented unfortunatly storys of replacement motors filures are even more common
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 23:54

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 23:54
Nissan replaced another motor the other day. My BIL's neighbor. I think it's great that one can buy a 5 yo vehicle and get a new motor when it goes south.

Leroy
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Follow Up By: Swine Hunter - Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 05:49

Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 05:49
Leroy,

Carsales.com.au 1 3.0TD there for $28.5 so not far off the mark if you had $25k to spend. They are out there, not many I admit, but with the failures surrounding early models I would rather buy a Petrol. I reckon they would be the most difficult of all GU's to sell

cheers,
Wayne
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Reply By: Member - Browny (VIC) - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 10:09

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 10:09
babs,

There's a member on this site with an excelent GU for sale at that price, t'is a manual though, but would be an excellent vehicle to join you off road, it's had kings and konis fitted has rear draws 12 volt to rear a snorkel it's ready to go camping.......... :-)

Browny
P.S. see my rig pic
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Reply By: Keith_A (Qld) - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 11:37

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 11:37
Hi Babs - you asked about Land Rover Discovery. I have owned a Landcruiser, a new Discovery TDI and now a Nissan Patrol. Two friends also owned Discoveries. Perhaps we were just VERY unlucky, but from bitter experience I will never buy one again, or recommend one to anyone. Constant faults from new. Serviced by the book by the LR dealer. Final straw was when the big ends chewed the chemically hardened crankshaft at 120k. Cost $8000 to rebuild.
Friends TDI blew a head gasket at 140k - $7000 rebuild.
At a recent campertrailer get-together, a fellow camper was bemoaning his new TD5 (with the BMW diesel) - same story - can't afford to keep it once out of warranty.
This is not a flame - my experince, as a careful owner with full history and receipts.
They are one of the nicest 4WD to drive, and very capable -but Quality control on parts is hopeless, and very costly.
I have no experince with the petrol V8 models.
My appologies in advance if this post upsets LR people. My experience only.
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Follow Up By: Bob of KAOS - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 14:48

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 14:48
Keith
your experience relates to the TDi. I have had two TD5s and they have been excellent. I am quite sure a lot of the quality issues from the early TDi were addressed in the series 2. The 5 pot TD5 engine has plenty of torque, is economical, and hasn't let me down once. I have driven it all over the place (literally), often with trailer, and I would have no hesitation in setting off again tomorrow without any special preparation. The 20,000km service interval (possible because of the centrifugal oil filter and synthetic oil) suits me well.
There has also been quite a bit of discussion regarding the Patrols engine problems - maybe you have been lucky to escape that.
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 14:39

Saturday, Jul 02, 2005 at 14:39
You can pick up a fairly low km Lexus LX470 for that. You could certainly get a series 2 Disco TD5 or a Pajero.
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Reply By: Steve - Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 09:55

Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 09:55
Landrover had some problems with series I, petrol and diesel. I had a petrol with no problems. The series II seem to have addressed problems. Lovely car to drive and very economical in TD5. Parts and labour can be expensive unless you find a mechanic who specialises in Landrover and has access to parts that are cheaper than the dealerships (who I would avoid). There are quite a few about. Not enough luggage space for me, personally. Can advise for Sydney/Newcastle mechanics and parts supplies. Or do a Google search. Always at the leading edge with techno stuff and innovations with the rest of the field often playing catchup. Very capable cars. Having said all that, I'm currently driving a Landcruiser which in comparison I find a bit dull, but reliability (I hope the hype is true) to die for?????. Would not hesitate to buy LR in future.
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Reply By: marcus - Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 11:07

Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 11:07
Hi Babs,
A great car for the family especially for the misses to drive is the discovery TD5.A great driving position and not so huge and truck like for a woman to drive.Very good off road and on and economical.People that own them love em and the TD5 has proven to be reliable.
Cheers Mark
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Reply By: babs - Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 21:09

Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 21:09
Guys wre taking everything mentioned in to prospective, some great feedback thanks. We will let you know what we end up with....

Babs
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Reply By: Dave ....Adelaide - Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 23:56

Sunday, Jul 03, 2005 at 23:56
Hi Babs
Another option is to look at auctions, my son picked up a 2000 3liter turbo diesel the other day here in Adelaide for 17600, has a few ks but also has lots of goodies, winch included......Cheers Dave
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