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Submitted: Friday, Jul 08, 2005 at 12:16
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Vic
Hi All,
I'm looking at putting new rubber on the 100 series, and am considering Cooper AT's, ATR's, Toyo OPATS, and Bridgestone D694's. The
forum is chokkas with for and againsts for just about every type, so I guess it comes down to price/value/service.
My local dealer is recommending 265/75/16's to replace the 275/70's on it from new.
Any last minute recommendations would be appreciated, also prices paid recently would be handy.
Thanks folks, this
forum makes us all more knowledgable, safer, and happier with our fourbies!
Vic
Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jul 08, 2005 at 14:47
Friday, Jul 08, 2005 at 14:47
First thing to discuss..
1) what do you do with the car? 80road/20offroad? or %mud? %sand
2) do you carry loads?
3) do you tow with it? so is your cartires the same as trailer?
4) is more offroad clearance important?
5) what is most important to you out of the tire - lasting, grip, looks (some do go on this), etc..
More info would help decide.
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Follow Up By: Vic - Friday, Jul 08, 2005 at 15:18
Friday, Jul 08, 2005 at 15:18
Thanks for the questions Truckster,
1) 80road/20off. Off road is muddy driveway,gravel tracks, sloppy paddocks, grassy hillsides, towing trailers, pulling stumps etc.
2) 5 people, weekend worth of gear is typical for weekends. Just me during the week
3) I tow a 7x5 caged trailer with
hay, or the occaisional horse float. Wheel compatability would be nice, but not essential.
4) More offroad clearance is not really that important.
5) Grip on and off road is important, durability next, looks are about as important as the colour of the piston rings!
Thanks again for the good advice.
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Reply By: adsum - Friday, Jul 08, 2005 at 17:40
Friday, Jul 08, 2005 at 17:40
Hi Vic,
Have you considered the Silverstone AT117 Specials, I am using them on my 80 and they would have to one of the best value for money AT's I have used, (around $185ea for a 275/70/16). I bought a set after they got a great write up in 4WD Monthly. I have done around 45K on and off road, good grip dry/wet road, great on fire
trails, ( basically a copy of the previous TA).
Coopers are good but too expensive, and you have to use their dealer and tyre care schedule to meet warranty conditions. Toyos are no good if you want to really go off road. The Bridgies are OK.
Do not go undersize, for legal reasons. Yoy may find that the 275's may result in a slight increase in road speed as opposed to indicated speed, as the AT tread will be slighly larger rolling diameter.
I hope this helps.
Tony
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Jul 08, 2005 at 20:24
Friday, Jul 08, 2005 at 20:24
Hi Tony,
265/75 are not undersize. They have about 15mm greater diameter than 275/70. Many people use them because they have the heavier LT construction, and come with a higher load index.
Cheers
Phil
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Reply By: Vic - Monday, Jul 11, 2005 at 12:12
Monday, Jul 11, 2005 at 12:12
Thanks guys for all your input,
the size thing still has me a bit worried, most suggesting 285/75 16, while my dealer suggests 265/70 16.
Obviously the 285's are bigger all round than the 275/70's, and the 265/75's, while the 265/75's are a little taller than the 275/70's. Phew!
It depends on whether the 285's are legal I guess. I'm pretty sure the 265's would be OK, since they're only a bit taller - but about 10mm narrower.
Any thoughts Truckster?
Regards,
VIC
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Follow Up By: Member - Smocky (NSW) - Monday, Jul 11, 2005 at 16:31
Monday, Jul 11, 2005 at 16:31
Hi Vic,
I believe wider tyres are better for sitting on top of stuff, like sand, and narrower tyres are better for grip into stuff, like dirt. Wider tyres can tend to plane across stuff particularly at speed like on dirt tracks and mud. So 260/75's might be better. It seems that a lot of special mud tyres look a bit like motor bike nobbies, in that they have a lot of space between rubber. Great for mud grip, not so great on the road or even on dirt for that matter.
Taller tyres have a longer footprint (more front to rear tread in contact), so this would be a consideration.
If you aren't doing anything too strenuous to the tyres, can I suggest something reputable and easy to get and supported locally? I've heard good and bad things about BFG, Coopers and Bridgestone, but mostly good about all 3. (Only always negative thing I've heard about tyres is Wranglers)
Truckster, as usual, will give you excellent advice in about 8 syllables.
Cheers,
Smocky.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 15:39
Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 15:39
Its your call as to what tire u want. There are so many different prices as
well as sizes... Think if you are travelling remote - what is easiest to access while out there (read
oodnadatta threads) for example..
Contact your local roads authority and ask them what size is legal. Dont take anyones word for it.. google for the RTA in your state.
Me - I love my MTRs..... but for your requirements, they wouldnt be good.
Toyo Opats have a good rep for a touring tire, and are really almost a HT.. worth checking out. Also the Procomp AT.
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Follow Up By: Member - Smocky (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 15:54
Wednesday, Jul 13, 2005 at 15:54
Here's the NSW guidelines from the RTA.
Smocky.
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